Posted on 11/17/2008 12:45:33 PM PST by Red Steel
Presidential candidate
Alan Keyes, vice-presidential candidate Wiley S. Drake, and the Chairman of the American Independent Party, Markham Robinson, have filed suit in California Superior Court in Sacramento seeking to bar Secretary of State Debra Bowen from certifying to Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger the names of Electors, and from transmitting to each presidential Elector a Certificate of Election, until documentary proof is produced and verified showing that Senator Obama is a "natural born" citizen of the United States, and does not hold citizenship of Indonesia, Kenya or Great Britain.
In addition, they have asked that the court issue a peremptory writ barring Senator Obama's California Electors from signing the Certificate of Vote until such documentary proof is produced and verified.
In response to questions about why the suit was being filed, Ambassador Keyes commented, "I and others are concerned that this issue be properly investigated and decided before Senator Obama takes office. Otherwise there will be a serious doubt as to the legitimacy of his tenure. This doubt would also affect the respect people have for the Constitution as the supreme law of the land. I hope the issue can be quickly clarified so that the new President can take office under no shadow of doubt. This will be good for him and for the nation."
At the time of his birth Kenya was a part of the might Br Empire.
Serves me right for not bookmarking it.
Lemme go dig, and hope it hasn’t been “disappeared”...
From my memory,
Several researches have exhausted every public source of filing in Hawaii and find no marriage certificate, witnesses, or notices.
From a quote I saved:
“Ann filed for divorce in Honolulu in January 1964, citing “grievous mental suffering”the reason given in most divorces at the time. Obama Sr. signed for the papers in Cambridge, Mass., and did not contest the divorce.”
It could be from the Chicago Tribune (perhaps July )
From my memory: The supposition was that she and BHO left for Kenya over winter break. So if the marriage date of February ‘61 was correct, it must have been over there.
Has any witness come forward that places Ann in Hawaii from the time period of January 1961- August 8 1961. She had dropped out of school from University of Hawaii for Spring semester correct?
I think we all feel like we need to vent. This is such a bizarre situation that it really sounds like a bad novel. But it’s actually happening...
Chief has the best time line I’ve seen so far. He may be able to help you.
can you please reply to this question, Chief?
“The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted.” 12th Amend.
The new piece of information we have is Hillary as Sec of State. This can only mean she may have the goods. And the goods are likely a State Dept. form 240 Report of US Birth from an overseas consulate, dated 1961, which would have been filed to Washington (State Dept!) per procedures. So would the White House, and the FBI—everyone must already know where this is going.
Note that the only member on Congress who survives the new term on 3 Jan is.....VP and Senate President CHENEY. Only he can open the letters from the Electors. He’s also the only one left standing with nothing to lose. Picture this: it’s CHENEY who, on 6 Jan., in front of the new Congress, refuses to open the letters from each State until SCOTUS rules on “natural born” status. What if this is already baked-in and the smart money may already knows it—no court would act first, they’ll all wait for Cheney (!)
....And no one in the joint session, including Pelosi, is Constitutionally authorized to open the letters—they all have to hold hands, cross the street to SCOTUS, and the end game begins.
Bookmark.
I laughed when I saw OJ doing the gloves don't fit routine.
Several researches have exhausted every public source of filing in Hawaii and find no marriage certificate, witnesses, or notices.
From a quote I saved:
Ann filed for divorce in Honolulu in January 1964, citing grievous mental sufferingthe reason given in most divorces at the time. Obama Sr. signed for the papers in Cambridge, Mass., and did not contest the divorce.
That was in this 7 page Time Mag article in April:
"The Story of Barack Obama's Mother"
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1729524-1,00.html
...On Feb. 2, 1961, several months after they met, Obama's parents got married in Maui, according to divorce records. It was a Thursday. At that point, Ann was three months pregnant with Barack Obama II. Friends did not learn of the wedding until afterward. "Nobody was invited," says Abercrombie...
"The Story of Barack Obama's Mother"
Barack Hussein Obama Srs trip to Honolulu in Dec 1971 was bracketed by two trips that Obama's old snack bar friends from the University of Hawaii made to see him in Kenya. Late in 1968, Neil Abercrombie and Pake Zane traveled through Nairobi on a year-long backpacking trip around the world and stayed with Obama for several days before they made their way on to the port city of Mombasa and to India. No mention was made of Stanley Ann Dunham or Barack Hussein Obama Jr. Neil Abercrombie is now Hawaii States 1st district Representative in the US Congress. He is a member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus who until 1999, worked in open partnership with Democratic Socialists of America. Pake Zane runs a store called Antique Alley in Hawaii...
Abercrombie simply follows the narrative of 'Dreams from My Father' - IMO any detail supplied by Abercrombie is not reliable.
'According to divorce records'? I doubt if anyone has been able to locate any such thing. The 'evidence' is purely anecdotal from what I can see.
A few points on Atlas Shrugs excellent research.
1. It explains why photographs of a group containing Mr. Stanley A. Dunham, BHO Senior & others were scrubbed from the net as many researched. Once they were posted FR began dissecting & identifying those in the picture. It was obvious the two ‘lovebirds’ hadn’t met in Russian Class. and more likely that Daddy Dunham had provided the introduction.
2. I thought Anne enrolled in Correspondence Courses at U. Washington and not necessarily there in the flesh? What witnesses place her in WA during the prenatal and delivery time?
3. And how does this story intersect with the African paper article from 2004:
Obama Traces His Own Roots
(from the last portion of the article)
“According to the family, Obama’s father travelled to America to study at the University of Hawaii in 1959. While there, he worked for an oil company and married his second wife, a white woman, named Anna Toot, and their union produced Barack Obama Jr.” july 18
It would be fun to celebrate 2 birthdays!
Where does the name or alias Anna Toot originate?
Why did the Kenyan relatives (Sarah..Kezia) think her last name was Toot?
And later Obama wife #1 had stated, “Anna Toot was like a sister to me” Nowhere is sisterhood based upon long-distance phonecalls or letters.
Was not Ruth (from Harvard) the #3 or #4 wife of Obama flown to Kenyan for an Obama wedding and set up to live among the other wives and bear his children? It appeared consistent to Ann’s story.
And what of the divorce records on file in the State of Hawaii for Obama & Dunham? Don’t they exist? Why would she bother to file and pay an attorney
if there were no records?
If Granny Dunham got stuck raising Anne’s kid, why didn’t Barry begin school in Hawaii at the legally required age so N. Dunham could return to work?
And as many would argue that the biographies written by Obama are written primarily by someone else, they are carefully “seeded” with false innuendo and planted stories to establish a timeline that “fits” the desired outcome of legitimacy and or natural-born citizenship.
Note:
The mention of Mommy Anne’s “First Passport” (purportedly for Indonesia)
The remembrance of ones exact time of birth 7:24
The phone call from Kenyan, stating Daddy BHOSenior had died.
There are a zillion others, but these 3 are significant now.
It is getting really hard to concentrate on the reality with such a web of conflicting stories.
Besides, there's the issue with Obama's mother being only 18 and not meeting the length of time requirements for having a child outside of the U.S. Then he lived in Indonesia which prohibited dual-citizenship. So even if he was born in HI, he still had his U.S. citizenship revoked if he went to school in Indonesia.
I am praying that someone powerful who still gives a damn about this country and willingly fall on their sword will stand up and order Obama to provide his original BC. Maybe one of the Supremes hopefully.
There has been absolutely no testimony by anyone of seeing Ann between January of 1961 and when she appears on Mercer Island with the infant Jr, aside from grandma Sarah and two of Jr’s siblings saying they were present at his birth.
If Jr was in fact born in Kenya in 1961 it is highly likely that those records were removed to London with the declaration of Kenya’s independence Dec 12/63. Whenever a country gained its independence from Britain the colonial records were transported to London.
If Jr was in fact born in Kenya in 1961 it is highly likely that those records were removed to London with the declaration of Kenya’s independence Dec 12/63. Whenever a country gained its independence from Britain the colonial records were transported to London.
Anyone know when this will be resolved?
Partial explanation anyway. I've lost the link to the genealogy.
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