Posted on 11/17/2008 7:14:55 AM PST by dbz77
There has been much "hate" described in media reports since election day in the nation, much of it related to the passing of Prop 8 as a Constitutional Amendment for that state and as such is no longer touchable by a state sanctioned court. Yet hate has abounded, not from the corners of Jewish synagogues, Mormon temples, Christian churches or Catholic cathedrals. Those are just the places we've been told "hate" resides.
The "hate" was also not found in any single ethnicity, political party, or geographical demographic.
No the side that has been doing all of the hating since election day in the troubled parts of our nation have been militant activists radicals, who happen to be mostly white, mostly godless, and nearly completely all choose to engage in homosexual behavior.
It is the radical activists roaming the streets, pushing elderly women to the ground, staging obnoxious protests outside places of worship, and in some cases interfering in the midst of worship services that have expressed all of the hatred seen since election day. They have even taken to harassing people on their way to or from the church door and their car.
But these haters are ignorant and as such, many Christians, Mormons, Catholics, and Jews have shown compassion upon them.
How are they ignorant?
For one they don't seem to understand the validity of Constitutional authority, Constitutional law, and Constitutional rule. They are running around ginning up the pathetic gatherings of theirs to "override" Prop 8. They don't seem to understand that the court is under the authority of the Constitution in the state of California. They don't seem to understand that if some Kangaroo judge attempts to hijack the resounding will of the people, having now passed in two landslide victories--even when outspent on the matter 6 to 1, they will have anarchy on hand. Given that to shred the explicit language of a state's sovereign constitution is to suspend all law, and all authority found in the law.
Secondly they don't seem to understand that those of us who choose not to engage in homosexuality, and even those who do--but do not take to acting like the equivalent of broodish animals--aren't fooled by what is attempting to be done. The activists keep marching, screaming and forcing spittle to fly in little old ladies faces, for what end? To change the definition of a word. Prop 8 didn't say that those who are protesting like wild coyotes can't create a contract in which every arrangement in life that they would like can be legally protected and allowed for. There is no discrimination going on against those who choose homosexual sex, they may still practice it, obsess about it, discuss it, believe it, and do it. But there is also no value in looking at the sacred sexual union of a man and a woman--with all the societal potential that such a union provides--and summarily saying that all other sexual unions should be considered the same exact thing. They are not the same biologically, emotionally, nor physically and it is easy to determine this.
Thirdly they are being grossly dishonest. No one has attempted to refuse a constitutional right to any of these persons. Marriage is a sacred union between a man and a woman. The society has a right to sanction such a union because of that union's potential to insure the future of that society. Those who engage in homosexual actions cannot conceive. Those who do, do so simulating either heterosexual behavior either with a human or via artificial means. But nonetheless the ingredients that are required must be present to bake the proverbial cake.
But further on this point those who engage in homosexual behavior are still under NO discrimination. They can legally protect their estate, visit their partners in hospitals, and even dictate the conditions under which fidelity to that union be observed or insure adulterous penalties.
In California, the civil union law is one of the most liberal in the nation. But even if it were not the drawing up of a legally binding document insuring rights is now, and has been available since before the term "gay marriage" was even considered.
The true reason that the radical activists wish Constitutional authority to be undone, is very simple. Those who have been displaying rage and hate at the houses of worship, publishing the names of people on blacklists on the internet and encouraging violence, harassment, and worse against Prop 8 supporters--ironically--is due to their desire to see "hate crimes legislation" not only be passed, but amended to include those they would label "religious bigots."
The activists here are merely mirroring the history in the Scandinavian nations, and Canada in wanting to silence anyone who disagrees with them. Eventually it will be considered a crime to even say that choosing to engage in homosexual activity is immoral, or unhealthy, or heaven forbid, just plain wrong.
The activists have displayed bigotry in their protests as well. Choosing not to protest churches in--shall we say "economically challenged" neighborhoods like--Compton, they instead of made primarily white voters the victim of their hate-filled tirades. And while it was 1.6 million Barack Obama voters--many black and latino--that really served to make the win the decisive victory for marriage that it turned out to be, they have shied away from the churches attended by these same groups.
The Prop 8 H8ters lost for simple reasons, they do not recognize Constitutional authority, they do not respect the disagreement of their opponent, they are dishonest with the facts, and they are far less tolerant than what the majority have ever endured from the most homophobic person they've ever met in person.
These points have been made to me in mail that I have received from--wait for it--homosexuals, who themselves are embarrassed by the animalistic tendencies of those who are garnering all the attention on newscasts these days.
I also publicly wonder if McCain supporters acted this way (who lost in just as big a fashion as did the opponents of Prop 8), how long they would be allowed on the street, threatening peaceful voters who had done their civic duty and voted their conscience.
These activists h8te God, they h8te those who believe in God, and ultimately their argument is with Him and against Him.
And if they believe America is uncomfortable as it is now, wait until they are faced with more eternal choices--should they choose to reject Him.
I've got to deal with Hussein as pres, they should deal, too!
Yes, and as has been pointed out by others, both Obama and Proposition 8 won by about the same percentage of the popular vote - 52%.
yes they lost and if they would realize that Churches are their largest “supporters” in the sense of giving time, money, food and aid to families that are devastated by aids, etc.
Our Church, as small as it was, would feed , pray and help the gay communities and their families. boy, is that ain’t love who knows what is. Just because your friend in an alcoholic does not mean you support his habit and lifestyle...would that be “love”? No! But you support him by kindness, caring and someone to talk to.
I don’t see the atheists and other groups helping the needy like the Churches do. I’ve never seen a group called “atheists for the hungry”....Let them bite the hand that feeds them. It’s the Christians who try to build the bridges and with doing what Christ call us to do “Love one another”, these people would have no one except the media!!!
What I fail to see in this whole mess, is why are we “pandering” to such a small percentage of our population on a national level?
What I fail to see in this whole mess, is why are we “pandering” to such a small percentage of our population on a national level?It would make much more sense to pander to black people since they have more votes and more money.
The Prop 8 H8ters lost for simple reasons, they do not recognize Constitutional authority, they do not respect the disagreement of their opponent, they are dishonest with the facts, and they are far less tolerant than what the majority have ever endured from the most homophobic person they’ve ever met in person.
NAIL ON THE HEAD
they have no understanding of the law or the constitution.
They have placed themselves into a bubble for years now with their freak parades and groups, each time telling each other the same lies lies and lies.
They repeat these lies and have no understanding of them.
For instance a pro homo troll was on here yesterday who sent me a message and they said in it that this agenda is the same as the black struggle and that blacks according to the constitution were slaves.
NOT
not only did they not know about a man in VA who went to court to get slavery legal, he was black by the way, his name Anthony Johnson.
He never knew how the law worked or how the whole process worked.
These people will never understand until the media and some homo leaders actually tell them the truth,
Fact is that many of them have been brainwashed by a few radicals who have their own agenda.
The media are not helping as even places like talk radio or many conservatives who refuse to speak about it for out of fear of being attacked.
Until they understand the law and the constitution then it is a waste of time trying to educate many of them
comes a time when they have to be cut off and ignored.
They do not care about those who help people, they do not care about you or I they only care about themselves and their agenda.
For instance my sister was a heroin addict, we tried and tried to help her but we realised that she needed truth so we told her that we are here when she is ready herself
she got to grips with heroin but it was a sharp lesson for her,
You cannot help those who do not want help
we have to stop pandering to them and trying to be nice with them,. Some times you have to fight fire with fire
IF THEY COULD ONLY USE THEIR POWERS FOR GOOD ;-)
you bring up a good point
teachers union give over a million dollars to defeat this and then you think just how many computers etc could they have bought with that money
One would think the media would actually ask them about this and one would think that the union would be held accountable about giving other peoples money away.
My wife left the teachers union a couples of weeks ago because she told them that she does not want her money going to elect a man she does not want
imagine how much money could have gone to the homeless, etc instead of being selfish and pushing their agenda on to the people
ever heard of this one
Govt has no right to interfere
Now they said this when states like down here in the south passed their amendments’
Now they want the Govt to get involved
They want to throw out votes basically and yet the Dem party always likes to shout every vote should count
Aren’t we seeing voter intimidation too, something the Dem party always shouts
Hate crimes being committed and yet non one charged to my knowledge but I await to be corrected
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