Posted on 11/16/2008 6:58:39 PM PST by EternalVigilance
When the Watergate burglars bungled their 1972 caper to steal documents from the Democratic National Committee, the initial reaction of the Nixon administration to suggestions that it was somehow also involved was: garbage. Turns out it wasnt garbage: it was truth and resignation igniter fluid.
When the Drudge Report first broke the story that a White House intern - Monica Lewinsky - had been illicitly involved with the president, then William Jefferson Clinton, the Clinton administrations initial response was that the story was: garbage.
Indeed, an independent prosecutor was appointed and a grand jury empanelled. When White House Deputy Chief of Staff John Podesta was called in June 1998 to testify before the grand jury looking into the issue of Clintons extreme mentoring of the female intern, his lawyer assured everyone that Podestas grand jury testimony (i.e., a statement given under oath and upon penalty of perjury) fully supported the presidents forceful denials of any improper conduct. And yes, Virginia, this is the same John Podesta who now heads up BH Obamas transition team how insightful of you.
Turns out the Lewinsky story and Clintons false testimony relating to it wasnt garbage either, but instead, impeachment material.
Now, faced with multiple lawsuits on various fronts challenging BH Obamas eligibility under the Constitution to hold the office of the president - the most recent one filed in California by former Ambassador and 2000 presidential candidate Dr. Alan Keyes - the flippant pronouncement of BH Obama spokesmen is: garbage.
Ummm anyone see a pattern here? Any cause and effect link between big problem for politician and the reflexive labeling of the problem by his sycophants as garbage?
The simplest way for BH Obama to disprove the claim that he is not a natural born Citizen as required by the Constitution would be for him to authorize full and complete disclosure of his actual birth records - not just doctored images on a website - and wherever they may be located, to allow their examination by independent experts, not just reporters for a mainstream media whose pronouncements on the matter up to now have been - let us be polite here - somewhat less than objective.
Thus far, he has adamantly refused to do so and a once-vigilant, but now subservient MSM has refused to even suggest that he do otherwise. What the heck does he have to hide? And they wonder why the lawsuits keep coming?
In reality, given BH Obamas long and close historical links to radicals, America-haters and corrupt influence peddlers, it is surprising that his spokesmen dont use more graphic and earthy descriptions of these lawsuits, which after all strike at the very core of his constitutional qualification to be sworn in as president: is he a natural born Citizen?
This is an abundantly fair question, pejorative labels of garbage aside: America deserves to know.
The Electoral College does not convene until December 15, 2008, so there is still time to clean up any detritus still littering the political landscape
but only if there is the judicial and Fourth Estate backbone to do so.
Gee, thanks.
And both Keyes and you are the hucksters peddling this nonsense.
What a CS and cowardly thing to say. I am glad our forefathers didn’t think like you because I wouldn’t have grown up and lived most of my life in a free country. Most of them lost everything and many, many of them died, not to mention all the people who have fought and died for our constitution in the interim. We must defend the constitution regardless of the price we pay because the price we pay by NOT defending it is far worse. Death is easy, slavery under communism is not.
In what way are we “hucksters” Reagan Man?
Playing dumb won’t help you make your case.
Well, maybe it will.
Those Democrat electors could just vote for a different Democrat. Like, Biden. Or Hillary. They certainly won't vote for McCain in any case.
What, pray tell, is “conspiritorial” about demanding proof that the man who is going to be issuing executive orders, issuing orders to our military, negotiating treaties, and signing and vetoing bills actually be constitutionally qualified to hold the office?
If you’re going to make accusations, back them up. Everything we’re doing in this case is out there for the public to see. Please point out what we’re doing that is wrong.
The obvious rejoinder is: no categorical proof of a negative is logically possible. The simpler way to state it is that this “concern” is no more than a mirror image of the “Bush is a deserter” bullshit from 6 years ago.
I’d say that doubts about the next President’s constitutional ability to hold the office are of a different quality than that. Especially since it would be so easy for Obama to put all of this to bed if he has nothing to hide. Every American should be asking the question: Why won’t he just release the birth certificate?
The proof exists. His birth certificate is real. There is no reason to believe its a fake. He’s constitutionally qualified to be POTUS.
I respect your passion for the Constitution, but your acting like a fool.
Good luck on that.
His staff appointments so far do not bespeak the application of his principle of change. Right now, a question mark should be entering the minds of any reasonable person who voted for him since he made this his central theme, and it was the primary mechanism for his motive to run.
I'll say this...the lack of awareness of the American people in general really scares the hell out of me...
I hear ya.
Agreed.
E.V. is correct. Just because a suit/s is/are dismissed for lack of standing doesn’t mean any court has actually ruled that Hussein is eligible, as Reagan Troll maintains.
No governmental authority with the purview to have say-so has officially weighed in and answered this issue. The closest we’ve gotten is a Hawaiian bureaucrat saying that the original B.C. exists in their records—but no specifics as to what information it contains! The issue is utterly intriguing and mystifying in its legitimate relevance, refusal to die, implications, etc.
Why the Certifigate “garbage” should NOT go away until it is finally resolved:
I wasn’t a FReeper at the time of the Dan Rather “Memogate” controversy, and the conclusive proof of that hoax, but I recall that it was a concerted effort by dedicated FReepers that ultimately exposed the left’s nefarious plot to smear Bush’s national guard service with forged documents.
I got the impression that it was a somewhat laborious, convoluted, and esoteric process that led, ultimately, to the public realization and acknowledgment about the miniscule manipulations of ink on paper which showed Dan Rather to be a partisan hack, shilling for sleazy Democrat operatives, even despite his legendary advanced professional career/CV and fame...and it all came down to tiny serifs on a font of type.
The Washington Post flogged and flaunted the Abu Graib story on its front pages for week after week, and observant critics noted that WaPo seems to be obsessed, year after year, with revisiting their former glory realized when they brought down a Republican president in the Watergate scandal.
Maybe we here on FR are also grasping at a sort of former glory ourselves, but we are nonetheless entitled as citizens also—along with the rest of Americans—to a full disclosure about and resolution of Hussein’s questionable eligibility to be our President. Such resolution hasn’t come about yet. That’s why this story still has legs and will eventually be concluded with a full public accounting.
Another dopey conspiratorialist.
Stuff it loser.
You’re living in a twilight zone. LOL
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