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To: TaxRelief
We have several...along with the oil for them and they are good for light.

I also have a ammish double action hand pump for my well...just need the sucker rod installed to be able to use it for water, and since it will hold 22 lbs pressure, I can even use it to pump up my pressure tank and have low pressure water in the house for extended periods in an emergency. We have our own septic field as well.

But, in order to keep your food frozen (unless it is winter in Idaho where ours can keep for several months in that time of year without) you need electricity for that food. That requires either solar, wind, or generator power. For the latter, you need fuel to keep it going as necessary.

Most of our food storage does not require freezing for that reason.

196 posted on 11/16/2008 5:43:21 PM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head

I’ve been contemplating a small freezer for that reason. One that I can pack as full as possible out of my main freezer, cover it with blankets (except for the motor and coils), and put power to it for only two hours a day or so.

But I’m not sure what’s available, guess I should start checking.


203 posted on 11/16/2008 5:52:28 PM PST by djf (The harsh reality of life is that reality is harsh.)
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To: Jeff Head
But, in order to keep your food frozen (unless it is winter in Idaho where ours can keep for several months in that time of year without) you need electricity for that food. That requires either solar, wind, or generator power. For the latter, you need fuel to keep it going as necessary.

Or a root cellar. We've turned half our basement into one. Anything that stays about 50 degrees will keep fresh food (potatoes, carrots, beets...etc.) for an extended period of time. You can even bury barrels full of food and then cover the area with a heavy layer mulch. That'll work, too, if you haven't the space.
For a national emergency, frozen food is a bad idea. You'll have to eat it fast or end up preserving it anyway.

204 posted on 11/16/2008 5:52:32 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Jeff Head

Yup. All of our emergency planning involves NO electricity.

We have hand tools, hand grinders, and pedal sewing machine. Leather tools, tire repair kits, rubber belts, rubber hoses, and so on. Hand beaters, knife sharpeners, tons of supplies in mason jars which allows for reuse after harvest or hunt. Bicycles, wagons, carts. Tents. Axes. Band saws, rasps.

We have wool, yarn and fabric picked up at yard sales for clothing repair. Future jeans and shoes for growing kids.

We have medicines, painkillers, anesthesia, sterile guaze, steristrips, and other items that may be necessary to treat wounded. Quinine for malaria. Flea shampoo.

We do have frozen food, but we think of it as a bonus rather than the basis of emergency supplies.

We have seeds of all types, at least one breeding pair of bunnies and usually a couple of layers.

We have items for trading including salt. I don’t believe gold is worth having.

We have a cooking wood stove.

We have oil lamps and tons of oil. Solar flashlight and solar radio.

And on... And on...

If you do this long enough you just keep thinking of things that can be useful (like 6mil poly).


230 posted on 11/16/2008 6:16:19 PM PST by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: Jeff Head
Note to those living in southern climate, Insect repellent is a must for skeeters (west Nile virus). Take precaution concerning your livestock. Vet supplies for animals etc..
387 posted on 11/22/2008 3:14:36 PM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (Don't blame Texas.. No more RINO's or Mavericks)
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