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To: libertylover

“....I’ve lived on the Florida coast for 28 years and for all of those 28 years I’ve heard that Global Warming is raising the ocean’s level. But everytime I go to the beach the ocean is in the same damn place it was 28 years ago!....”

Thanks for laugh! I needed that.

I have lived on the Mississippi Coast for 30 years. The Gulf of Mexico is always in the same place too. Strange, eh?


39 posted on 11/16/2008 6:34:31 AM PST by Islander7 (This Atlas is shrugging! ~ I am Joe!)
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To: Islander7; libertylover

Perhaps this will shed a little light on the subject of Gulf elevation

There is evidence of late Quaternary glaciation on thirteen mountains of central Mexico (~19°N) peaking above 3850 m. Iztaccíhuatl volcano (5286 m) probably has the most complete record in the region. This work presents the late Pleistocene and Holocene glacial chronology of Iztaccíhuatl, the reconstructed equilibrium line altitude (ELA) of glaciers for different advances, and some paleoclimatic implications. The chronology is based on morphostratigraphy, 81 36Cl surface exposure ages, and 3 radiocarbon-dated tephras from Popocatépetl volcano. The ELAs for the past 20,000 years were reconstructed using the terminus-to-headwall altitude ratio (THAR=0.4). The most extensive recorded advance reached ~3000 m and falls within MIS 6 (~190 36Cl ka) (Nexcoalango moraines of White, 1962, GSA Bulletin, 73:935-958). There is no clear evidence of Wisconsin glaciation prior to the LGM. The main advance of the late Pleistocene occurred between 20 and 17.5 36Cl ka, with a mean ELA of 3940 m (Hueyatlaco-1 moraines of White). An ELA depression (compared to A.D. 1960) of ~1000 m is consistent with similar estimates from North America and northern South America for the LGM. After a short recession, massive moraines formed between 17 and 14 36Cl ka, with a mean ELA of 4040 m (Hueyatlaco-2 moraines). This substantial late glacial ELA depression (~900 m) might be related to the cooling effect of Laurentide meltwater flow to the Gulf of Mexico. Glacier retreat occurred slowly from 14 to 13 36Cl ka, then faster between 13 and 12 36Cl ka. Glaciers expanded (mean ELA: 4240 m) and receded from <12 to ~10 36Cl ka (Milpulco-1 moraines). There is clear evidence of an advance peaking shortly before 8.0 36Cl ka, with recession in progress by 7.5 36Cl ka (Milpulco-2 moraines). This could represent the 8200 cal yr BP cooling event of the North Atlantic. The mean ELA of 4420 m implies a depression of ~50% with respect to the maximum ELA lowering of the late Pleistocene. The younger next advance is dated in <1 ka (based on tephrochronology) and likely corresponds to the Little Ice Age (Ayoloco moraines). The mean ELA (4720 m) was depressed ~250 m, equivalent to 24% of the late Pleistocene maximum. As everywhere in the tropics, the glaciers of Iztaccíhuatl have undergone accelerated retreat since the beginning of the 20th century. The current ELA lies around 5000 m.


44 posted on 11/16/2008 6:48:37 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Save America......... put out lots of waferin)
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To: Islander7

” “....I’ve lived on the Florida coast for 28 years and for all of those 28 years I’ve heard that Global Warming is raising the ocean’s level. But everytime I go to the beach the ocean is in the same damn place it was 28 years ago!....”

Thanks for laugh! I needed that.

I have lived on the Mississippi Coast for 30 years. The Gulf of Mexico is always in the same place too. Strange, eh?”

Well I have a cottage on Lake Huron (MI) and the water level has dropped steadily for the past 25 years... It is now 5 feet below its highest... Rising water level???... NOT HERE...


78 posted on 11/17/2008 5:50:51 AM PST by redrunner (Anagram this: Obama-Biden = IM A B-BAD ONE)
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