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Remedying the Bias Perception
WAPOO ^ | 11-16-08 | Deb "An Independent Newspaper" Howell

Posted on 11/16/2008 4:23:29 AM PST by Nick Thimmesch

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To: Nick Thimmesch
Remedying the Bias Perception

As my boss told me a couple of decades ago, "perception is reality."

21 posted on 11/16/2008 6:08:35 AM PST by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: Yardstick

Hear, hear.

On Day One of Journalism School, the first professor in the first class should ask the room, “Show of hands: How many of you came to J-School to ‘Make a Difference’?”

(Hands are raised)

“Then to all of those I recommend that you leave immediately and enroll in LAW SCHOOL.”


22 posted on 11/16/2008 6:11:16 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: mlocher

How about some good ol Fairness Doctrine for the media. We demand it!


23 posted on 11/16/2008 6:16:27 AM PST by JessieHelmsJr (Tree hugging liberals call it global warming. We call it summertime.)
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To: Nick Thimmesch
"Conservative complaints can be wrong: The mainstream media were not to blame for John McCain's loss"

All they did was to provide unlimited free advertising.

Liberals Lie. It's what they are trained to do.

24 posted on 11/16/2008 6:22:32 AM PST by Gorzaloon (Roark, Architect.)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
There is no "bias perception" to remedy. There is plenty of bias to remedy.

Exactly!

25 posted on 11/16/2008 6:32:02 AM PST by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: Yardstick; JoJo Gunn; Obadiah; Mind-numbed Robot; A.Hun; johnny7; The Spirit Of Allegiance; ...
I don’t see how she squares the notion that liberal journalists want to change the world (which she admits in the column) with the notion that liberal journalists want to be objective and unbiased (which she claims in the column). The two are fundamentally at odds and can’t be reconciled. This is the basic disconnect in journalism right now and no amount of self-policing by Obama-voting ombudspeople or conservative affirmative action hires or prosecutorial editing will change it.
Exactly. Nothing can change the inherent tendency of a monopoly organization (the Associated Press and its membership) to promote its own interest and denigrate any and all opposition.

The interest of journalism, hence of the aforementioned monopoly, is in promotion of their talk via the denigration of those who act, who take responsibility for making decisions and living with the consequences.

Journalists bristle at the thought of their coverage being viewed as unfair or unbalanced; they believe that their decisions are journalistically reasonable and that their politics do not affect how they cover and display stories.
They bristle, because they know that there is no possible way to prove the negative that they are not biased.

And because it is in fact true that they are biased.

Their system is to exploit the fact there wouldn't be any way to prove that negative even if it were true, as a way of begging the question. But the reality is that the rules of journalism - "If it bleeds, it leads," "Man Bites Dog, not Dog Bites Man," "Always make your deadline," and so forth - all are designed to interest the public and have less than nothing to do with the public interest, which is quite another matter entirely.


26 posted on 11/16/2008 7:00:10 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (We already HAVE a fairness doctrine. It's called, "the First Amendment." Accept no imitations.)
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To: Nick Thimmesch

Some quotes from a recent column by her, “An Obama Tilt in Campaign Coverage”:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/07/AR2008110702895.html

“But Obama deserved tougher scrutiny than he got, especially of his undergraduate years, his start in Chicago and his relationship with Antoin “Tony” Rezko, who was convicted this year of influence-peddling in Chicago. The Post did nothing on Obama’s acknowledged drug use as a teenager.”

and

“One gaping hole in coverage involved Joe Biden, Obama’s running mate. When Gov. Sarah Palin was nominated for vice president, reporters were booking the next flight to Alaska. Some readers thought The Post went over Palin with a fine-tooth comb and neglected Biden. They are right; it was a serious omission.”

So, Debbie, now that you’ve showed us the things you did wrong, WHEN do you think your paper will dig into obama as you SHOULD have? Hmm? BTW, we could give you a dozen or so other omissions, starting with the elusive birth certificate.


27 posted on 11/16/2008 7:11:55 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Nick Thimmesch

Down with the leftist newspapers. Cancel your subscriptions, do not buy even the Sunday paper. You can find what you want on the free Internet. Encourage your family and friends to cancel. I have not had a paper subscription in 20 years. That TREND will continue.


28 posted on 11/16/2008 7:14:03 AM PST by RetiredArmy (America is entering four very long and cold years. First victim: liberty)
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To: Nick Thimmesch

Debbie, I have a solution. Send us copies of all your articles in each edition before publication. We will read, critique, and edit them for bias and return them to you quickly. No charge for this fee until you circulation climbs back to it’s level of two years ago. Then you pay us or you are on your own again.


29 posted on 11/16/2008 7:17:49 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Nick Thimmesch; abb; Milhous; Liz; BOBTHENAILER; tubebender; george76

Mediots like Deb in their little minds are the smartest people in the world. Their little biased minds view
conservatives as rude, dumb and not capable of logical thought processes.

The arrogance of mediots like Deb plus the incredible left bias for the left wing fishwraps will be their self inflicted fatal wounds.

So they continue their Dixie Chick Marketing Strategy re pissing off and turning off about 50% of their potential subscribers and a large % of advertisers, who are Republican.

I personally hope they never wake up and change their Dixie Chick Marketing Strategy if bias and hatred towards us, the stupid.

The stupid, who will cancell their subscriptions and stop advertising with those who lie to us and insult us daily.


30 posted on 11/16/2008 7:24:52 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Buy what we need before Zero is sworn in. He and Pelosi will not have our buying $'s in 2009!)
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To: Nick Thimmesch
It pains me to see lost subscribers and revenue

... However, it does not "pain me" enough to do anything about it, at least not in terms of balancing the coverage, or of restraining the promotion of a certain left-wing agenda. Consequently, I can expect subscribers to continue to leave, and revenues to continue to dwindle until I'm forced to give up my elitist position as (self-assumed) arbiter or public values and get a real job. And THAT is what REALLY scares me! How will I afford expensive cocktail parties and trips all over the world if I'm working the cosmetics counter at JC Penney?

31 posted on 11/16/2008 7:28:24 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

BTTT


32 posted on 11/16/2008 7:31:05 AM PST by E.G.C. (Click on a freeper's screename and then "In Forum" to read his/her posts)
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To: Grampa Dave

I think most conservatives already have cancelled and only the “stupid” are left. IOW, I don’t think there truly are that many stupid people that are conservative, although there are a few exceptions out there.


33 posted on 11/16/2008 7:32:26 AM PST by tpanther (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther

“I think most conservatives already have cancelled and only the “stupid” are left. IOW, I don’t think there truly are that many stupid people that are conservative, although there are a few exceptions out there.”

The key word is most.

Out here in the land of liberal fruits and nuts, 20 to 30% of conservatives still subscribe to the San Francisco Gay Rhonicle. When questioned about that, the typical response, “I subscribe to know what they are saying about us!”

I laugh and say what a waste of money. You know they will be lying about our people and us 24/7/365.


34 posted on 11/16/2008 7:40:30 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Buy what we need before Zero is sworn in. He and Pelosi will not have our buying $'s in 2009!)
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To: tpanther

“I think most conservatives already have cancelled and only the “stupid” are left. IOW, I don’t think there truly are that many stupid people that are conservative, although there are a few exceptions out there.”

Ooops, I forgot the obvious. The Compost must be getting a lot of cancellations or threats to cancel, or this biased oped would never had been written.


35 posted on 11/16/2008 7:42:27 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Buy what we need before Zero is sworn in. He and Pelosi will not have our buying $'s in 2009!)
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To: Grampa Dave; conservatism_IS_compassion; abb
many have stopped subscribing, including more than 900 in the past four weeks.
G-d blessed conservatism by handing mass media a Pyrrhic victory. Doubt about mass media's self proclaimed objectivity got planted in many formerly unquestioning minds.
36 posted on 11/16/2008 7:46:18 AM PST by Milhous (>)
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To: Bahbah

I wonder how many “more than 900” have cancelled in the past weeks? The contempt these people have for the intelligence of the American people never ceases to amaze me. Now we’re told that it’s just a perception, which of course means that it’s really our own fault! Clearly only bitter clingers are cancelling.


37 posted on 11/16/2008 8:16:19 AM PST by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Milhous

The way the MEDIA covered the financial crisis DID have alot to do with McCain’s loss.
And is anyone investigating the TIMING of this particular crisis?And who caused it? I thought not.Too busy checking out Sarah’s clothes.
B.S and no one is buying it.


38 posted on 11/16/2008 8:18:18 AM PST by georgia peach (georgia peach)
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To: All

As Snoopy opines: GoodGrief!

Does this writer live in the real world or is she fully insulated within a closed and deteriorating world of communication and information without knowledge of 90% of the American people’s perception of the demise of what we used to call “the media”.

The press have become extinct, sterile and uselss as a species - as relevant as the Dodo Bird.

A death rattle almost comic in its fatal gasps while we sit and softly whisper: “I told you so!”

Those of us who miss the great daily gnashing of brains and words; who miss those prose-meisters who spun real news for us to digest; who made the wheels of commerce and industry turn; and who were kingmakers in their time know it is over.


39 posted on 11/16/2008 9:35:58 AM PST by imintrouble
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To: imintrouble
Does this writer live in the real world or is she fully insulated

The writer lives in a world of LIBERALS. She probably doesn't know any conservatives personally.

40 posted on 11/16/2008 11:00:10 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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