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Hey! That's pretty good for the most 'progressive' state in the union.

Good going California!

1 posted on 11/15/2008 12:58:10 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
Show me the bodies. Show me that all the dead guys didn't smoke, didn't drink, didn't cuss.

Kaleephornya is a disease in and of itself.

2 posted on 11/15/2008 1:00:30 PM PST by stboz
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To: Lorianne

Get rid of California’s anti-business climate, grow the economy, people can afford newer and cleaner cars, bingo!

But no, mister “I left Europe to get away from socialism” wants to raise the damn sales tax.


3 posted on 11/15/2008 1:01:32 PM PST by Tony in Hawaii (NUTS!)
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To: Lorianne

Actually a ton of pollution that is measured in California comes from China. From what people have told me sometimes you can actually see it coming in.


4 posted on 11/15/2008 1:02:00 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Lorianne

BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS

Which means BU(( $HIT times 10


5 posted on 11/15/2008 1:02:23 PM PST by PRO 1 (POX on posters who's political bent causes them to refuse to be confused by the FACTS!!!!!!)
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To: Lorianne

Stop driving or Stop breathing. Some choice.


6 posted on 11/15/2008 1:04:40 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed)
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You know, I heard this on the radio last week. I think it is some study that just came out, totally bogus. The air pollution is so negligible these days, really not bad at all, at least here in Los Angeles. Sheesh, remember the 1970s here? We have catalytic converters on our cars, etc. You can barely even see the air anymore, and I never see that awful inversion layer just hanging over town.

I think this is bogus, and I think it is just designed to take control of SOME bit of something by the libs.

Just a hunch. The next ‘scare’?? now that GW has been proven ridiculous? I’m not buying it.

Show me the dead bodies, too. And I’d like to see what other variables were involved — alcohol, drugs, lowlife living. What?


7 posted on 11/15/2008 1:06:21 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Lorianne

If the Latino and Black gangs don’t get you first...


10 posted on 11/15/2008 1:07:43 PM PST by Dallas59 (Redistribute Obamas Wealth)
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To: Lorianne

What a crock. There is no way this could be a valid “study” or conclusion.

Scientists should be embarrassed... for this and many many other “studies.”


16 posted on 11/15/2008 1:39:26 PM PST by ValerieTexas
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"...Lowering air pollution in Southern California and the San Joaquin Valley would save more lives annually than ending all motor vehicle fatalities in the two regions, according to a new study..."

1) Air pollution from vehicles is worst at an idle than at a steady RPM.

2) Traffic fatalities are reduced when traffic is at an idle.

Therefore, improving traffic flow would increase traffic speeds and lower pollution; however, increased speeds would increase fatalities until fatalities from both causes reach some natural point.

(Something like that, anyway.)

:-\

19 posted on 11/15/2008 1:51:44 PM PST by Does so (Schumer, with IndyMac, precipitated bank failures BEFORE the 2008 election.)
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I am so glad the driving and the newer auto safety standards & laws have improved highway safety to that extent since 1971-1983, when I lived there. /sarc>

I have to admit though that I can't believe that the air pollution isn't much better now than back then, based on my visits there during the late 1990's and early 2000's.

As to 'not meeting air quality standards', WHICH standards are they talking about, since they have tightened them several times, like each time the area even got close to meeting whatever standard was then current?

20 posted on 11/15/2008 2:11:49 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (The mob got President Barabbas; America got shafted)
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Yes...all the more reason to stop building cars....menace to our health, destructive to small animals, walking is the answer, and maybe horse drawn carriages,,,,but on second thought, that is cruelty to animals.....but for sure the Great One, will have answer...
23 posted on 11/15/2008 2:55:13 PM PST by thinking
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No no this cannot be! CA has the strictest, most invasive and limiting emissions and global climate change policies in the nation. Carbon is banned there. This story must be false!! /sarc
25 posted on 11/15/2008 3:38:49 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: Lorianne

Public enemy number one is the personal automobile.

Until our right to own one is destroyed, look for crap articles like this.


26 posted on 11/15/2008 3:57:40 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Okay lefties... the problem with wanting something, is that you sometimes get it. Good luck now!)
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To: Lorianne

Wow, so if they all stop driving then there won’t be any car accidents and there won’t be so much pollution and they can live forever, cool.


27 posted on 11/15/2008 4:06:25 PM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: Lorianne

Vallies and basins collect smog naturally, and then you build cities in them. You should have made some better choices locating your cities. The rest of the country won’t be punished for your poor decision making. If you don’t like the air quality, don’t live there.


28 posted on 11/15/2008 4:16:16 PM PST by factoryrat (Better living through American Industrial Might.)
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I guess the point of this liberal crying is to get rid of diesel trucks. Well, California is the biggest failure as a state because of it’s liberal leanings. It’s millions in debt and this business-killing idea would make things worse. Failures.


29 posted on 11/15/2008 4:16:47 PM PST by Force of Truth (The "common good" will make us all common.)
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To: Lorianne; All
her is Jane Hall's info

Hall, Jane SGMH-3390 Economics

30 posted on 11/15/2008 4:23:42 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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