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To: mewzilla
Mew....

Please, as my Auto Engr contact tells me with the amount of folks that have already taken early separation "packages" with the big three, these are effectively a mute point.

Please also google the following:

New plant works rules (Yes in place the same as Toyota)

Parity of pay with Toyota (Yes $48 hr, for new folks coming in, the fly in the ointment is getting many more people to take "packages").

The "VEBA" which will transfer the legacy cost (long term retiree health benefits to the UAW) in 2010, ergo the cash needed to make it until 2010.

The lack of knowledge about these vehicles of internal change within these organizations by the conservative punditry and talk show host is frightening. They are getting the story wrong, with that said, what better are they now than the "Lame-Streams" ?

8 posted on 11/15/2008 6:20:49 AM PST by taildragger (The Answer is Fred Thompson, I do not care what the question is.....)
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To: taildragger

I want my Cadillac Escalade.


10 posted on 11/15/2008 6:35:26 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: taildragger

I agree.

The ship on preserving capitalism has already sailed.

The Gov has given away 3 trillion with no strings arrached to the “suites” who created the phony paper profits in the first place. AIG alone has received 150 billion and will probably need more.

To deny the auto industry funds defies any rational logical thought.


32 posted on 11/15/2008 8:24:26 AM PST by Tripleplay
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To: taildragger
Please, as my Auto Engr contact tells me with the amount of folks that have already taken early separation "packages" with the big three, these are effectively a mute point.

Has management's attititude changed? The union's? If not, then the point ain't moot.

42 posted on 11/15/2008 10:34:22 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: taildragger
UAW Leader Says No More Concession

Yeah, let's give the union and GM more money.

SNORT.

48 posted on 11/15/2008 11:23:06 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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