Birth certificates if I recall can be requested if pay some fee. They are not sealed.
The governor of Hawaii has sealed the file.
Check the Hawaii Dept. of Health website. There are a select few who can request someone’s birth certificate. A very narrow list.
Well sort of. Some are literally sealed, and even the person themselves can only get a copy of the "replacement" certificate. Generally in adoption cases, the down side of which is that the person cannot found out their biological family medical history. (All in the name of "protecting the children", even once those children become adults).
But in most cases only the person themselves, or a descendant or other close relative, can get a copy, even of the abbreviated "certification of live birth". That is the case in Hawaii, ostensibly/originally to prevent identity theft, now supposedly to protect "privacy". But none of those justifications apply in this case, but the law/regulations, still apply.
It wasn't always so of course. Not too long ago, birth records were considered "public records", and anyone could at least look at them, if not get a copy. Not too long before that, they were private records, kept in the family bible or at the family church. Ask any genealogist.
“Birth certificates if I recall can be requested if pay some fee. They are not sealed.”
BCs in Hawaii ARE private (probably to prevent identity theft) - certain other documents such as marriage certificates are not.
The ONLY way to receive a copy of a BC in Hawaii is to be the person in question, or to be a relative of the person in question (after that person has died).
A relative has to produce documentation that he is related and ALSO a certified Death Certificate of the person in question.
The State of Hawaii then verifies the information.
The “sealing” of Obama’s BC is probably a ruse - no need to seal something others can’t get ... but they probably mean that they locked it in a safe.
I paid 10 bucks for a copy of mine from the state of OK.
Over the past year of following Obama you can find snipits of truth when least expecting it.
I don’t know who was interviewing or when the interview was, or where I saw the interview, but I remember the interviewer asking him about his birth certificat. He said that he had never seen it. The interviewer sounded incredulous about it. He said, he had never seen the long form birth certificate and when asked why not Obama said I guess I just afraid that it might show that I was illegitimate and I didn’t want to know that.
There was also something either in his book about his father coming to Haiwaii to give up his rights and allow the grandparents to adopt him, this was never carried any further - if they did adopt him that changes everything.
He has a way of telling the truth once in awhile amid all of the evasions. Based on the fact that he has used 3 different names in his life Obama, Soetero, Dunham. Why Dunham?
1. Let’s say he was born in Kenya, and was illegitmate. He would have been a citizen but not natural born citizen regardless of whether the Obama Sr was named on the birth certificat. Obama would be a naturalized citizen at birth based on immigration law of that year.
2. At that point he would have always been a naturalized citizen regardless of what happened in Indonesia.
The other option was for him to have been born in Haiwaii and has always been a citizen and was never adopted in Indonesia. Regardless of who his father was or whether his parents were married. I can’t see the advantage if this is the case for Obama not to release his orginal birth certificate.
There is one other option that I haven’t heard about. When a child is adopted they assume all of the rights of their adopted parents. It would not matter where he was born then, his original birth certificate would have been replaced with his adoption birth certificate. His grandparents would show up as the parents and he would be a natural born citizen.