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BNP's shock victory in council election sparks fears of surge in votes across Britain
The Daily Mail (U.K.) / various ^ | November 14, 2008 | Ian Drury

Posted on 11/14/2008 3:45:46 PM PST by Stoat

Critics have accused the Government of failing to prepare cash-strapped councils for the influx of immigrants by giving them the resources to invest in public services.
 

This has left schools, health facilities and transport struggling to cope with greater numbers.
 

The resurgence of the BNP will also spark fears among the main political parties that the radical group could prosper at future by-elections in the run-up to the next General Election.
 

In a result which revived huge concerns, the far-right party won its first district council seat in Lincolnshire in the Fenside ward of Boston.
 

BNP candidate David Owens polled 279 votes - a 138-majority over the ruling Boston Bypass Independent candidate Carl Smith. The Conservatives came third.
 

In his victory speech, Mr Owens said local media organisations had tried to 'hoodwink' the public into thinking the 'BNP was a racist party'.
 

He said: 'We are not a racist party - we are passionate about our country. I think the people of Fenside and the people of Boston have said tonight that immigration is at capacity here.'

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: bnp; boston; britain; conservatives; empyreum; england; greatbritain; immigration; lincolnshire; patriots; uk; unitedkingdom
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To: B-Chan

The BNP, that is...


21 posted on 11/15/2008 2:32:34 AM PST by Winniesboy
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To: Stoat

I know you’re a perceptive observer of the British political scene, so sorry to see you taken in by the sanitised image the BNP now presents to the world. It now has an astute, politically savvy leadership which knows how to project itself in a vote-catching way. I can personally attest, however, from a number of unpleasant encounters, that beneath the smart suits a (metaphorical) black shirt still lurks, and the polished shoes still have a steel toecap. Nasty, nasty people I’m afraid.


22 posted on 11/15/2008 2:39:05 AM PST by Winniesboy
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
That the BNP is seen as a ‘racist party’ is not exactly unreasonable, considering it’s membership and history...

And in Amerika, the Democrats had absolutely nothing to do with support slavery or the KKK??? [i.e., Sen. Robert Byrd(D)-WV or U.S. Vice President Andrew Johnson(D)]

Further, for myself born in England, but not having the eligibility to vote in Britain, I would also say this:

Being constantly told I am a racist by the leftists, even though my friends of differing ethnicity agree with me, I just say "yes, I am." It deflates their entire argument, ends the discussion and my friends know the truth.

Secondly, if it o.k. for some groups to be racists, why not others? When the accusations coming from the left about hurricane Katrina were directed at Republicans, why cower? I would have said yes, we created those hurricanes with weather machines to kill every minority we could!

Sure, their are indeed racists that should be publicly scourged, but to cower before the insinuations that you are somehow in their company?

Blacks in this country voted 97% for Mu-barak Hussein Obama bin Biden. Does that mean black people are racists? No - it means 3% of them have an open mind and it also leaves in doubt the other 97% to uselessly haggle over.

23 posted on 11/15/2008 2:52:25 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Winniesboy

Bullshiite... If Britons standing up for their national identity is racist, then so be it...


24 posted on 11/15/2008 2:55:51 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: wazoo1031

Ping!


25 posted on 11/15/2008 2:58:46 AM PST by Allegra
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To: B-Chan


26 posted on 11/15/2008 3:02:26 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Stoat
So, these BNP victories are springing up in the face of rampant, unchecked immigration and multi-culturalism and the UK's speedy decline into socialism.

Very interesting.

Congrratulations, Mr. Owen and BNP.

27 posted on 11/15/2008 3:04:52 AM PST by Allegra
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To: Winniesboy

It is really quite unfair to say that I’ve been ‘taken in’ by brownshirts in suits, when the reality of the matter is that I have only been taken in by a clear projection of patriotism and a desire to reaffirm traditional Briish values....things that are quite worth doing,in my view. ‘Nasty people’ exist in any and every political party on Earth....always have, always will. To broadly characterize the BNP that way does a tremendous disservice to the millions of good people who merely care about their country and their heritage and have no place else to turn. Of course I’m sorry to hear that you’ve met some losers, but any organization which has strongly-worded, politically-incorrect goals is going to attract a wider and more polarizing range of people than a Milquetoast do-nothing party. I seem to recall reading that the BNP is the fastest-growing party in the UK now in terms of active membership and I certainly wouldn’t want to insult such a huge number of people in that way...I know that Britons are better people than that and if it is truly such a wolf in sheep’s clothing then I have faith that the BNP’s rise will be short-lived. They are never going to get anywhere in the long run with such tactics and I know that the good people of Great Britain won’t put up with it.

I can imagine that their rather strident stance on issues may be off-putting to some, but the prospect of pulling the clenched claws of Labour from around people’s necks is a job that may require a bit of roughness.

The day that the BNP breaks the laws of Great Britain or harms the country is the day that they will instantly lose my support. In the meantime, I am seeing a lot of the same sort of smears and name-calling thrown against the BNP as what I’ve seen thrown at us Republicans over here in the USA, and I have seen absolutely zero truth in it here.
If we Republicans were to become as energized and passionate as the BNP, I can guarantee that the media and the Left would escalate their attacks on us exponentially as well.


28 posted on 11/15/2008 3:49:04 AM PST by Stoat (Palin / Coulter 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: Allegra
So, these BNP victories are springing up in the face of rampant, unchecked immigration and multi-culturalism and the UK's speedy decline into socialism.

Very interesting.

I'm delighted that you've found it to be worthwhile  :-)

I think that many of our dear British Friends are discovering that aggressive measures are called for when dealing with such a vile and entrenched cancer as Socialism which wends it's way into every nook and cranny of life.

29 posted on 11/15/2008 4:04:40 AM PST by Stoat (Palin / Coulter 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

You know, when I look at the bullet points in the poster which you so kindly provided here, all except completely stopping ‘all’ immigration are items that I might expect a ‘Mayor Palin’ to do over here in the USA. Completely reasonable in my view, and if we had the exact same immigration concerns here as our British Friends do then that would probably be fine as well.


30 posted on 11/15/2008 4:17:35 AM PST by Stoat (Palin / Coulter 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

The BNP was a neo-nazi party not only within living memory, but a mere ten years ago. The current leader was a member of the party when Tyndall was leader, he didn’t just magically appear from nowhere. Nick Griffin could be seen as the BNP’s answer to Tony Blair, he’s taken a party with an electorally unpopular ideology, and with the use of spin and sophistery has changed the public image of the party to suggest that it is no longer all about that. Underneath it all though, it’s the same old socialist/nazi party that it has always ever been, but with a more fabian approach to it’s agenda....


31 posted on 11/15/2008 4:37:54 AM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
Nick Griffin could be seen as the BNP’s answer to Tony Blair, he’s taken a party with an electorally unpopular ideology, and with the use of spin and sophistery has changed the public image of the party to suggest that it is no longer all about that.

If that is what it takes to save Britain, and nobody else will stand up for Britons, then so be it.

Are you suggesting a "peace in our time" capitulation to the Islamics like the other do nothing political parties? Because if that is the case, you certainly can join them on the other side with the enemy.

32 posted on 11/15/2008 5:33:17 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Stoat
Completely reasonable in my view, and if we had the exact same immigration concerns here as our British Friends do then that would probably be fine as well.

The English, Irish and Scots have a similiar dilemma, and immigration is indeed an issue in the USA.

Nobody in U.S. politics has the filberts to address it.

We have open warfare in the streets with rival ethnic oriented gang bangers. It is more racist to ignore this at the expense of the republic itself.

The Hindu nationalists in India (BJP) have it right, the international interlopers and cultural terrorists are the ruin of civilization. We share common enemies.

33 posted on 11/15/2008 5:43:56 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Join a Nazi party to eliminate the threat within? Where have I heard this before? The irony of you referencing Neville Chamberlain could scarecely be more hilarious....


34 posted on 11/15/2008 5:47:10 AM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
Where have I heard this before?

With your cranium lodged in such a place as it is, you should not have to ask about your verbal flatulence.

35 posted on 11/15/2008 5:51:38 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan


36 posted on 11/15/2008 6:18:24 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Please explain how a racist scumbag political party being a big deal in India justifies supporting the BNP in Britain? I couldn’t care less if the Indian Prime Minister had a ridiculous toothbrush mustache and was constantly screaming for more Lebansraum, I don’t want Britain to ape the worst political traits of other countries just because they’re doing it...


37 posted on 11/15/2008 7:03:58 AM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
Oh, you don't like the Hindus?

I'll take up with a division of Gurkhas any time over your ilk...


38 posted on 11/15/2008 7:20:14 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
Please explain how a racist scumbag political party being a big deal in India justifies supporting the BNP in Britain?

Another culture war is being fought half a world away by BJP - - and BNP has exactly the same enemies...


39 posted on 11/15/2008 7:46:21 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Another culture war is being fought half a world away by BJP - - and BNP has exactly the same enemies... Well, the BJP is certainly fighting a culture war, one that involves butchering Indian Christians and anyone who isn't Hindu. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article4727215.ece The kinds of people you admire are people who love to engage in genocide and ethnic cleansing. I will however, optimistically assume you are not a monster and are simply ignorant of what these people are actually like...
40 posted on 11/15/2008 8:33:50 AM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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