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The Judeo Christian Tradition is from where all morality and true justice derive. Good soldiering requires adherence to a strict moral code, else our military would have long ago devolved into anarchy and the barbaric practice reminiscent of other pagan or amoral cultures. The American military would not hold that reputation so well earned over two centuries, were not the Judeo-Christian Traditions central in its doctrine of moral conduct.

All of Western civilization owes its birth, its liberty, its jurisprudence, and its prosperity and longevity to the Catholic Church, and the Christian moral code, without which no semblance of the above attributes would have risen from the rubble that was the old Roman Empire. That is not my opinion, but historical fact.

I have no intention of arguing Catholic apologetics with you, not wanting to cast pearls before swine. I long ago discovered atheists comprise the most closed of all intellects, while the irony is they claim to have enlightened minds.

Moreover, the typical arguments the atheist conjures involve circular logic and the disproval of negatives.

I would expect that the “fringe” remark is more in line with your “beliefs.” I doubt there are many soldiers following your “creed” of atheism, just as I seriously doubt your view is supported by but a few here on FR. Shall we put your assertion it to a vote?

All of Western civilization owes its birth, its liberty, its jurisprudence, and its prosperity and longevity to the Catholic Church, and the Christian moral code, without which no semblance of the above attributes would have risen from the rubble that was the old Roman Empire. That is not my opinion, but historical fact.

That era was called the Dark Ages. The light of science in those years was found in the Arab countries.

With the Renaissance and The Enlightenment the breakthroughs came when Europeans escaped the dominance of the churches and replaced unquestioned religious dogma with free and unfettered investigation.

That is not my opinion, but historical fact.

All of Western civilization owes its birth, its liberty, its jurisprudence, and its prosperity and longevity to the Catholic Church, and the Christian moral code, without which no semblance of the above attributes would have risen from the rubble that was the old Roman Empire.

Wasn't Christianity the official religion of the Roman Empire from 325 AD on? James Madison on the legal establishment of Christianity:

"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity, in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution."

James Madison, Memorial and Remonstrance against Religious Assessments, 20 June 1785

http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/amendI_religions43.html