The Five Stages of Collapse

Energy Bulletin ^ | November 11, 2008 | Dmitry Orlov

[MrB]

I concur with your reversal of order of collapse in America.

[Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!]

Hey it is an interesting opinion that could be referring to the political divide and not meant to be taken literally as in physical attack per say, who knows?

[OneWingedShark]

>we will muddle through this unless a devastating terrorist attack occurs, a major war or some cataclysm of nature occurs in which case, anything is possible.

D) All of the above.

[Paved Paradise]

Thanks for posting. I skimmed this article and it is very interesting. I think the author makes many good points and this is very disturbing.

[antceecee]

“I’ll take chicken little for $1000 Alex”.

; ~ )

[aWolverine]

Americans, more than most other people, need to be defended from each other at all times. I think that I would prefer martial law over complete and utter mayhem and lawlessness, though I admit that both are very poor choices. That's a load of crap! Especially the first sentence.

Cancel all welfare and SS payments week 1. Empty the local grocery store shelves week 2. By week 3, your city will be burning and the cross sub-cultural violence will have killed thousands.

[GingisK]

Americans, more than most other people, need to be defended from each other at all times.

Here is a jewel for which I've seen no evidence.

[Scythian]

I thought the same thing, immorality comes first, then everything collapses, they have these in the reverse order. It is not money and success that keeps man inline, but morality, without it, everything goes ....

[steve0]

Well if I lived in Iceland and I knew that the value of my currency was about to be halved I would take action. Convert currency to real property, convert currency to gold, etc?

[Obadiah]

ping

[tumblindice]

“two failed superpowers” Dmitry Orlov
Russian optimism....

[LomanBill]

[If so, how close are we to going through the same experience as Iceland?]

 

Iceland has no Petro-Dollar.

 

The future of the Dollar depends upon whether or not Comrade Chairman Obama protects the Petro-Dollar.

[woollyone]

a week?

For hurricane prep...a store is picked clean in less than two days.

[austinaero]

” By week 3, your city will be burning and the cross sub-cultural violence will have killed thousands. “

Actually, week 3 is the more worrisome to me. I know Texas is a big state but Mexico is a BIG country and I think it is quite likely that Mexicans will pour over the border (along with AQ) if there was ever civil unrest on a national scale. That said, I realize that such an influx could be mitigated by the extreme nature of the unrest. Luckily, we are an armed citizenry in Texas. However, that has its limits. Any thoughts?

[boxer21]

>D all of the above.

Maybe. I listed them in order of probability in my opinion.

[word_warrior_bob]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x32cxf_yuri-bezmenov

[Attention Surplus Disorder]

Not having had time to read the article (which I will do) I agree with you as to the inversion. Yes, I agree the outcome is bound to be similar.

[JenB987]

Everytime I hear the terms “martial law” or “lawlessness” I think of Back to the Future 2 when Marty enters the psuedo-1985 that’s ran by Biff.

Oh how I wish I had a time machine...

[woollyone]

bookmarked for coffee reading tomorrow AM

...along with all the other gloomy stuff.

*not to self*
extra sugar in the coffee please

[aWolverine]

” By week 3, your city will be burning and the cross sub-cultural violence will have killed thousands. “ Actually, week 3 is the more worrisome to me. I know Texas is a big state but Mexico is a BIG country and I think it is quite likely that Mexicans will pour over the border (along with AQ) if there was ever civil unrest on a national scale. That said, I realize that such an influx could be mitigated by the extreme nature of the unrest. Luckily, we are an armed citizenry in Texas. However, that has its limits. Any thoughts?

Random thoughts:
Totally agree as a Texan myself. Good news: Mexicans from Mexico, except for the drug lord types, are statistically unarmed. More good news: When we go down the crapper employment-wise, Mexicans will actually flow back home (as they are now doing in small numbers) - they'd rather be poor in Mexico I guess. Frankly, I'd rather they be poor in Mexico too. Final piece of good news: This dyer scenario only applies to urban areas where population density and cultural incompatibility are acute. This will be televised. This will scare Mexicans who might otherwise be tempted to come here.