Posted on 11/13/2008 9:30:17 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
Eclipsed by the election campaignining, this story slipped under the radar. Much has been said about the invasion of Iraq. Often there are claims that there were no weapons of mass destruction and no ties to Al Queda. In fact, most of the WMD claims that were made before the invasion turned out to be true. Iraq was not clean and innocent in regards to WMD, and the ties to Al Queda were wrongly dismissed.
One of those ties regard Saddams involvement with Al Queda groups like Ansar al Islam which no one disputes was present and active in the northern section of Saddams Iraq. Opponents of the war dismiss that tie by saying that if they werent in the part of Iraq that Saddam controlled, then they werent under his control. Thats a nice piece of rhetoric, and its good spin, but its ignorant of the fact that Ansar was the ONLY means of influence Saddam had in the North (that, and the threat of invading the north). He used Ansar as his proxy guerrilla force to attack his Kurdish enemies and impose his will in the North.
The point remains, Ansar and other Al Queda groups were inside Iraq in 2002, and the CIA knew it. They knew it because they sent extremely brave people there-into Iraq, and those people monitored the Al Queda until the Pentagon blew the opportunity to destroy the camps.
Charles Sam Faddis, who led a CIA team into northern Iraq following the 9/11 attacks, says the Pentagons endless planning and delays foiled a chance to wipe out a band of al Qaeda leaders who were fleeing American bombs in Afghanistan.
Faddis says the delays, beginning in 2002, also facilitated the escape of some key al Qaeda figures, including terrorist scientists who were working on chemical and biological weapons.Some died, some are still on the run, Faddis said in a telephone interview Tuesday, following his appearance on NPRs Diane Rehm Show to promote a new book, Operation Hotel California: The Clandestine War Inside Iraq.
The site was physically destroyed but certainly the research wasnt destroyed.
To argue that the Pentagon botched this is to argue that there was something substantial to be botched. Admitting the US missed an opportunity to attack Al Queda in Iraq before 2002 is admitting that there was enough of an Al Queda presence in Iraq before the invasion to warrant military action.
Are you an idiot?
LOL, Too much!!
HE controlled what HE put out -.
No. He did NOT have control over what THEY said.
BUT - If HE were effective, HE had ways of making fun of the ignorance and bias in the press about what THEY said, and SHAMED them out of their complacency and strident pro-democrat propaganda.
But HE failed absolutely in communicating HIS words.
THIS,
...either. That's 500 freaking TONS!
Right. No WMD.... The scumbag Democrats and the rest of the mouse vomit that elected 0bama the Steaming Pantload have no clue whatsoever.
If the world even wants English anymore. Yeah, I sense the creation of a few new words to deal with the haters, you know, anyone who disagrees with the tolerant left is a hater. Esperanto or maybe Klingon?
LOL! I don't know if that's Klingon or you just mashed some keys? Either way, making just as much sense as the new gibberish.
What matters most is alQaeda is in Iraq now. We know where to find them. We are killing them and stacking the bodies up like cordwood.
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How credible is this source? Who is Flopping Aces and why would they know this?
Those that CARE and PAY ATTENTION don't need PR SPIN to KNOW. Those that don't care and don't pay attention rely on 10 sec sound bites and think they know.
Our nation has too few of the former and too many of the latter!
He did a lot of things right, but quite honestly he lost his own presidency and perhaps the Republic (look at what just happened) because of his "new tone" idea.
Flopping Aces is a very good weblog, with lots of well written articles and good information, run by a group who has been in and very supportive of our miltary. It’s worth going to every couple of days or so: http://www.floppingaces.net/
The Yellowcake was under UN seal and fully accounted for. That is why Saddam was trying to buy more while pretending that the sealed barrels showed he was still complicent with UN directives.
Its old news and anyone who followed events up to the invasion is well aware of this.
bttt
I remember that Rummy was the most hated Bush administration official in WDC, because of his ‘bottom up review’ of the Pentagon. I also remember the ‘wall builder’ Gorelick began her craft in the Pentagon.
I also remember year in and year out the liberal liars kept accusing President Bush of being the most secretive administration in history. And the Rockefeller memo in methods of getting to that information.
Given who buried themselves into ‘civil’ service of government from the Clintons, President Bush had very few options. He sure could not have fired them all, else these liberals would have had grounds to hang him at high noon.
The Bush Administrations inability DECISION NOT to communicate
He could have gone on TV on any day and laid out his case. He refused to do it. It was the most insane policy in American political history, but he did it. I'll never understand why.
yes! bastards! CIA has undermined this administration for 8 years.
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