Posted on 11/13/2008 8:31:16 PM PST by Chairman of the Bard
You'd think Democrats would be content with last week's electoral rout. But judging from the odd doings in Minnesota, some in their party wouldn't mind adding to their jackpot by stealing a Senate seat for left-wing joker Al Franken.
AP Al Franken. When Minnesotans woke up last Wednesday, Republican Senator Norm Coleman led Mr. Franken by 725 votes. By that evening, he was ahead by only 477. As of yesterday, Mr. Coleman's margin stood at 206. This lopsided bleeding of Republican votes is passing strange considering that the official recount hasn't even begun. The vanishing Coleman vote came during a week in which election officials are obliged to double-check their initial results. Minnesota is required to do these audits, and it isn't unusual for officials to report that they transposed a number here or there. In a normal audit, these mistakes could be expected to cut both ways. Instead, nearly every "fix" has gone for Mr. Franken, in some cases under strange circumstances. For example, there was Friday night's announcement by Minneapolis's director of elections that she'd forgotten to count 32 absentee ballots in her car. The Coleman campaign scrambled to get a county judge to halt the counting of these absentees, since it was impossible to prove their integrity 72 hours after the polls closed. The judge refused on grounds that she lacked jurisdiction.
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Is it true that many of these new votes are people who voted for McCain and voted for Franken?
This is like in 2006 all the found Todd Stroger votes in Cook County that voted for the R candidate for Governor.
So, no comments on the information I posted?
Troll alert. You joined 10/07/08 just to post this garbage? I have read some of you comments and you should be zotted.
Don’t forget Johnson/Thune in ‘02. Thune was up till the Indian Reservation votes arrived to save the day.
What is garbage about it? Pretty sure my description is accurate; what do you have issues with?
I can post the results (night of, and after certification) of Coleman’s last election, if you are interested, that show a far greater vote change than has occurred in this election.
my understanding is the Coleman has not received a single vote in the votes that have turned up since election day.. that is statistically not probable.
thieves.. this is going to have to end up in the courts, I’m sorry to say. We cannot allow them to steal this one.
Neither is Al.
This jackass is insane. The entire RAT party is pure garbage. We will live under this communist rule for many years with very little chance to boot out. They are sick criminals that will stop at nothing.
Governor Pawlenty said the same thing. It’s his state. Put the miscreants in jail. It’s message time.
>>>Actually Stalin did a version of ‘ballot stuffing’ at the 29th[?] Party Congress. The rumor that never went away is that Kirov got more votes than Uncle Joe. So a little conference was held in the back room and lo and behold, Stalin won. Kirov wound up dead shortly after, and Stalin used it as an excuse to launch the Great Terror. Most of the delegates to that Congress then also wound up dead.<<<
Thanks for the history lesson. It reminds me of all those elections in the old Soviet Union where the single communist candidate on the ballot always got 100 percent of the vote. Which, sadly, is the kind of wet dream that our Democrats lust after.
I repeat: is the election of 2010 even going to matter? Or is it going to be decided by ACORN, activist judges and newly legalized aliens?
Felonies for all when this crap is revealed as fraud. Just think, jail next year and no mini-14 for Christmas.
Thank you for the history lesson. Did any of the newly-found Coleman votes last time come from the trunk of a car? How many came from tiny villages? You may not see moral equivalence between random number changes and concentrated ones under suspicious circumstances, but we certainly don’t, and we can’t tell that you don’t from the way you write. That’s why your comments have met such suspicion; you seem to have no ability to read our sense of ethics, morality, and propriety, and our well-earned sensitivity to being cheated.
100% of votes found going to Stuart Smalley is BS. Get a grip on reality.
How can it be that the votes we cast are treated with such disrespect. Each of those votes has been won and guarded with the life blood of thousands of Americans who fought for an American Ideal, at a time when it meant something.
Now, we work real hard at having election judges initial each ballot before it is handed to us, and we sign in with our names when we vote, and afterwords, the election judges in just three precincts in the state toss them into the trunk of a car without even leaving them in a common container.
There is no lock on the container on the way to deliver the votes?
Shame on us all for even allowing this situation to develop.
It should be in the presence of two judges at all times and counted in front of all people, and restored to a secured box until the election is certified.
What is good is a recount if three precincts merely add votes to the pile before the recount begins? This is not a recount, it is a continuation of the first count, which will continue until Franken wins.
We treat this so superficially, that it makes me wonder if that is not done on purpose to make certain the election can be thrown if need be.
It will discredit Minnesota in a bad way. Being the only state in the nation to vote Mondale doesn’t help. (Even Tennessee wasn’t that crazy in 2000).
This happens everywhere, not just Minnesota. We allow this to happen to ourselves.
Our greatest shame is that we were the only state to not vote for Reagan...
I have no idea what your sense of ethics, morality and propriety are; I am in no position to judge. And not sure how they affect the situation either (except in one’s own perception).
The only point I am making is that in the 2002 senate race, the difference between the election night tally and the final vote (and in a non-disputed election) was about 100,000 votes when absentee were counted, and it changed the winner’s count by nearly 9,000.
I see pretty normal variations.
Oh, and the trunk in the car votes? The story has been debunked.
Coleman’s spokesperson (Knaak) was quoted in the St. Paul Pioneer Press yesterday as saying that “Knaak said he feels assured that what was going on with the 32 ballots was neither wrong nor unfair.”
“http://www.twincities.com/ci_10936725?nclick_check=1
Because ballot boxes and such can’t be beamed up yet, like in Star Trek, they are transferred from location to location in car. The polling booth closed late, the depot to where they were to be dropped off was closed, and the votes were delivered the next morning.
Coleman’s own campaign agrees that there was nothing wrong with those votes.
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