CIA Says Osama Bin Laden Is Isolated, "alive and surviving"

CNN ^ | 11-13-2008 | CNN

[82ndABNOfficer]

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- U.S. intelligence agencies believe Osama bin Laden is isolated from al Qaeda and spending much of his energy merely surviving, the head of the CIA said on Thursday.

[americanophile]

Osama "alive and surviving"

Prove it!

[CaribouCrossing]

If you served in Iraq, you should know the answer to your wonderings.

[Sender]

Obama is a takfir doing tech support for Dell. Hello, my name is Kevin.

[Deo volente]

spending much of his energy merely surviving...

After the mess that Washington and Wall Street have gotten us into, I think you could say the same about most Americans!

[CaribouCrossing]

“Just because we had more troops in Iraq doesn’t mean there wasn’t/isn’t a signigicant effort in Afghanistan. We have more troops in Iraq because there’s less support for the effort there from other countries; hence we have to bear more of the burden. Because Al Qeada said the central front in the WOT was Iraq and they sent most of their supporters there, we focused there.”

You got it. I’ve often wondered how the troops in Afghanistan feel when they hear that some people SOME PEOPLE are saying that there hasn’t been a “significant effort” in Afghanistan. That’s a bunch of crap...they know it and it has to really burn them up...

[Cementjungle]

I’m not trying to be a RHINO, but having served in Iraq, and worked with and around the intelligence community one has to wonder why Afghanistan and Pakistan was still not the main effort for the WoT...

We took out the Taliban first, and large forces weren't appropriate for a manhunt in those mountains. Pakistan is more our friend than not, and has nukes. Iraq, in constant violation of the cease-fire agreement and weapons inspections (and the whole oil for food scandal) led us to finally carry out the regime change called for by the previous administration.

[CaribouCrossing]

ym spil era delaes...

[RasterMaster]

Osama and "Mullah Omar" (the raghead with the eye-patch) became WORM FOOD when Omar's Chevy suburban was turned into a crater on an Afghani highway as it left Kabul for the mountain hide-a-way. Biggest hint was when almost all articles referencing his demise were purged from the net. Keeping Osama's myth "alive" allows the US and our allies to continue exterminating jihadi scum wherever they hide.

The world knows that the glasses-wearing wart head Zawahiri is in charge since then. Tora Bora was all about getting Zawahiri out to keep the operations going so the cells didn't react due to his demise.

Also that Obama will tuck tail and wear a dress and dance to the enemy demands in the face of any "generated crisis" that Biden could conceive. They can manufacture any crisis they wish, but Obama will still be the FRAUD he always was.

[RedMonqey]

For the same reason FDR decided to pour the vast majority of the our early war effort to defeat Germany and not Japan, the country that ACTUALLY attacked US.

Because Iraq was the more dangerous.

[chuckles]

....." one has to wonder why Afghanistan and Pakistan was still not the main effort for the WoT..."......

Well, we do know Saddam DID have Chemical Weapons, and we know he was working on Biologicals. We also took 500 tons of yellowcake out of Iraq even though some say it wasn't there. We also need a strategic ally in the ME that will allow us to be a burr in the saddle of Iran. Saddam was shooting at our pilots every day and breaking all the UN sanctions put on him. He threw out the UN inspectors and Clinton did nothing. There is not one world leader you can point to that didn't think Saddam was seeking a nuke. The main thing people seem to resist remembering was Bush 41 ended the hostilities in Desert Storm with a cease fire. We had the right to resume firing at anytime Saddam broke the cease fire rules HE AGREED TO!

Bush did everything right EXCEPT he help on to Rummy too long. If he had put a time limit on Rummy to produce and then fired him, Bush 43 would be a freaking hero by now.

Afghanistan, IMHO, will never be controlled. It serves as a shooting practice field and a bombing test ground now that Vieques is closed. The madrassa's send them and we shoot them. I think that will continue for some time now. We won't finish this until Pakistan will cooperate fully and even have joint exercises in the tribal areas. In fact, if some Delta Force killed Osama and brought his head out for proof, Pakistan would throw a fit and probably attack us in Afghanistan. They have internal political problems they will eventually have to deal with. The same idiots that want to kill us tend to plant bombs in Islamabad. If they intend to keep nukes, they will eventually have to fix this conflict. If Pakistan falls to the idiots, it will immediately be destroyed. The world won't allow the head choppers to posses nukes knowingly.

[chuckles]

How do we even know he has kidney trouble? I know of no proof, just speculation.

[Candor7]

one has to wonder why Afghanistan and Pakistan was still not the main effort for the WoT...>>>>>>>>>>>>

Strategic interests. Iraq is central to the whole ME and related oil security issues, the others are peripheral.

We should be in Iraq for the long haul, but Obamsey will have us out. Watch the Chicken $hit fly then. The Russians and the Persians will take over the entire ME, while we try to operate out of Israel.

What a joke.

[Defiant]

That's not a RINO question, it's a valid question. I think Iraq was the right "next" move in the WOT, but as a prelude to an effort at regime change in Iran and Syria. There was no follow through on the momentum from the Iraq victory, and he let that magnificent victory stagnate into a drain.

Now, we have to go back to Afghanistan and clear out the cockroaches again. But with Obama in charge, I don't have a lot of confidence that it will be done right, and it may turn into a disaster.

Thank you for your service.

[Candor7]

Now hopefully when we do leave they will not like being under someone elses foot, and there will be enough that grew up with a taste for some freedoms, and they will organize and fight to keep it.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You are 100% Keeeeerect!

Google "Sons of Iraq " and "Daughters of Iraq".

[Doctor Raoul]

I think he’s in public housing next door to Obama’s aunt.

Pimping ain't easy...

[Doctor Raoul]

My tag line used to be, "Fire The CIA, Hire The Free Clinic. Someone who knows to stop a leak."

They really need to deal with that problem.

[PhilDragoo]

According to Robert Baer, twenty-five year CIA veteran, Carter and Turner cut 820 case officers Halloween 1977 from which trick the agency has not recovered.

Here's a story problem:

The moving force behind the Haditha inquisition was an enemy slip-and-fall expert, then Jack Why-Is-He-Still-Alive Murtha, sustained by the ten-thousand-fairy Ministry of Enemy Propaganda using the false flag of "media".

Murtha should have a lifetime tenancy in the Yuri I. Nosenko Hospitality Suite, and the only ROE should be Kill AQ & Co.

Use the tried and true methods of information extraction: an Army colonel told me his "killers" (you can hear his quotation marks) would take the fellow backwards over a log and treat him to a helmet of water down the nose.

The New York Times just leaked an executive order regarding raids on Al Qaida--and why is the New York Times staff not evicted and its facility renovated into a USO.

Having positioned force in Iraq and Afghanistan the board would seem to be set for a round of Whack-a-Mean-Jihad, not Neville Sips Sweet Tea With Holly Cast D. Nyer.

But it's the Eve of Jimmy Carter's Pervert Nephew and the kind of executive action appropriate seems of a bygone era.

Porter Goss might have done the Augean Stables bit had he not been run out without backup.

His COS John Millis called Clinton the worst c-in-c for counterintelligence and called Deutch the worst DCI for counterintelligence and then of course Millis sucked a shotgun in a bathtub at the Breezeway Motel.

Jamie Gorelick and her Wall will be back.

How much of a rerun of a movie we hated from the first are we to endure.

Can we cut to the chase--one last run for the Midnight Rider?

[pissant]

Huh? I thought he shaved his beard and won the US election.

[bootless]

advance_copy:

“Mission: Accomplished” as the banner raised for the crew of the USS Lincoln in May 2003... not for the the rest of the military campaign.

Only for the Lincoln. The MSM ran with that distortion, and any clarifications were drowned out by the Left’s echo chamber.

[Tulsa Ramjet]

the CIA is upset because they have been blamed for alot:
1) they couldn’t communicate with FBI thus couldn’t see 9/11
2) they thought Iraq would be a slam dunk, but it wasn’t
3) they feel burned by this administration because Plame was outed in off-hand conversation.

Its not a negative thing, but their organization is looking for appreciation and new relevancy in an Obama administration.

As for so-called revisionist opinions on efforts in Iraq, there just isn’t enough open source material for validation here, yet.