Posted on 11/13/2008 12:20:22 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
They all were recorded as retail sale at some point. At the point any subsequent sales went off the books, the BATFE just resorts to some form of “rubber hose cryptography”.
Most cheap stuff is imported. On that note, expect an early executive order to ban importation of ammo.
The good/expensive stuff is domestic. On the prior note, expect domestic ammo to get really really expensive from supply and demand alone.
I don’t think you’ll ever be expected to know who owned any weapons you may lay claim to before the person you bought them from. I don’t think any state says you are even required to maintain a list of the person you bought them from. Isn’t that how the the BATFE justifies their value to America?
You could always lead a simple gun free life, such as my own.
>They all were recorded as retail sale at some point.<
Another thought. I am not quite sure that my original Stevens .22 had a serial number on it. 1955 or ‘56.
Absolutely! The United States Marine Corps trains about 200 novices a week to shoot acurately at a distance of 1,500 feet.
We have a reputation of killing people from ranges much farther than that. Would you like to be one of us? We hare always looking for a few good men.
Semper Fi
An Old Man
Turn that thought process around. The goal is not to find out “who’s gun is this?”, it is to determine “who has guns?” Stroke of a pen, law of the land, BATFE goes to each manufacturer and says “turn over your transfer records or we shut you down and take those records”, and starts following the paper trail from there. Should they reach “dunno, sold it to some guy in a private sale”, they will NOT just go “oh, ok, guess that lead is closed”, they’ll move to some variation of “rubber hose cryptography”. ...oh, and if someone says “boating accident”, every cubic foot of their residence will be turned over to a depth of 10 feet.
Absolutely! The United States Marine Corps trains about 200 novices a week to shoot acurately at a distance of 1,500 feet.
We have a reputation of killing people from ranges much farther than that. Would you like to be one of us? We hare always looking for a few good men.
Semper Fi
An Old Man
George Ochenski is a turd!
MSM just reads their own pap and spits it back out. I'm so tired of this untruth.
I don’t know ‘bout y’all, but I’s jes’ gittin’ ready fer the OJ sentencin’.
Been thinkin' about it. Speer got started by shoving lead into spent .22 LR casings. Makes a nice .223 bullet when it's swaged.
I have been spreading the word about Obamas security force, it is obvious when it is someone that voted for him, they brush it off and say they are sure he won’t do that. It amazes me that many who voted for him don’t believe he will do the things he promised to do.
One thing I have found effective when spreading the word about his proposed security force- I point out all the different LEO agencies we already have in this country and say I can’t imagine why we would possibly need more law enforcement. That usually gets their attention- as I find many of the Obama supporters are not exactly fans of LEO. I love to see the looks on their face when I put it to them that way.
Various gun boards say to use 175 grain Sierra MatchKing bullets to have any degree of accuracy at that range in .308. The 168s fall off around 600-700 due to velocity dropping below the speed of sound, which introduces turbulence that throws off accuracy. So say the gun boards, I've never shot at anywhere close to those distances.
Before they get anywhere close to upending more than a few homes, word will get out. Hell, some patriot employed by the fed.gov may even spill the beans before the first raids begin.
At either point, the searches will have certain, uh, costs - yeah, that’s the ticket, COSTS - attached to them. Some of those costs may need to be paid directly by higher level management (you know, the peons never have the authority to pay for stuff, they just do as they’re told).
Hey, here’s a great scene from movie about a somewhat similar set of circumstances: http://moviesonline.ca/TheFeed/index.php?id=300-laydownyourweapons
>every cubic foot of their residence will be turned over to a depth of 10 feet.<
Anyone foolish enough to deep cache on their own property deserves the burns that will come from it.
Ask the supporters of The One why it is that virtually every single police department in the country has full autos, plus many (up to thousands, in the larger forces) of the same semi-autos that they seek to ban from ownership by average citizens. After all, such weapons have as their only purpose the “killing of large numbers of people.” Who are those all for, pray tell?
Yeah, so we REALLY need a force of 250,000 or 500,000 brainwashed youts with full autos, doing the bidding of Der F..., uh, The One. Sure. What’s THAT for? To sweep away any resistance from local PDs? To simply burn out, intimidate, kill, etc. any citizens with firearms that they don’t wish to turn in? What’s it for, what’s its purpose? Does Obama expect the Russians and Chinese to invade without the armed forces noticing, so that we need a large force to re-enact Red Dawn?
You know, it is easy for anyone to say that you, I or most of the people on this thread are habitual wearer of aluminum foil beanies. Very easy. After all, nothing like that has ever happened. Not here, anyway. But it HAS happened elsewhere. Yeah, using Nazi Germany as an example isn’t likely to win anyone any debating points (there’s that unwritten rule that the first person to mention the words “Nazi” or “Hitler” loses the argument), but the fact is that those events occurred, power was seized by force from a scared or otherwise compliant population that was largely unarmed (and if they were, the local police knew exactly what was owned and by whom). Simply put, the various measures proposed by The One are, in their totality, quite worrisome. Combined with his background of hanging around uber-lefties and outright revolutionaries, it causes hairs to stand on end, and threads like this one to proliferate.
That'd be quite true. There are any number of places on the Internet where the subject is discussed. I believe that there's a thread on FR entitled, "The Art of the Cache" that is very educational (article and FR posts both).
On a separate note, a large collection effort would require informants. People that dislike a gun owner. Heaven forbid if some of them were careless and left their empty shell casings or, EGADS!, live ammo from military caliber rifles on their property. Why, then they themselves could be informed upon and dragged away like the rest of the eeeeviiiiiil gun owners. That'd be TERRIBLE wouldn't it?
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