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Rahm Emanuel Expects 'A Lot' From Civil Defense Corps [Ben Smith podcast]
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Posted on 11/12/2008 12:18:55 AM PST by Pacothecat

In a 2006 interview with Ben Smith of the NY Daily News, Rahm Emanuel, who will be Barack Obama's White House chief of staff, laughed at Smith's concerns about how far-reaching a mandatory civil-service plan would be.

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To: Just Lori

We’re doing just fine, thanks for asking! We found ourselves a nice house just 10 minutes or so away from Fort Gordon, and I’ve received orders to return to Fort Lewis after my training is finished.

Yep, the little one got here on 30 JUN. She’s four-and-a-half months old, but she’s as long and heavy as a seven (maybe even eight) month old! She’s a big girl!


341 posted on 11/13/2008 3:10:26 AM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: Texas_shutterbug
And, yeah, I believe in a strong military, public schools, libraries, publicly funded police departments, fire departments, etc.

In short you're a statist by philosophy.

You did it by living in a country that affords you a lifestyle unlike many other countries

Please explain to me specifically just how the government "affords me a lifestyle". It is your assertion that I couldn't have done what I did anywhere else. (this arrogant assumption is made without knowing ANYTHING about me) So, tell me what specifically the government did to help me. I'll give you a hand. My parents did not send me to public skool so you can't claim that I was given an education at the expense of someone else. Oh and one other thing, that military that you claim I don't know anything about, would that be the same one that gave me an all expense paid tropical vacation 41 years ago?

Also You should know that logic is NOT on your side with this truly startling assertion that I would only have a couple of cows somewhere else. IF THIS WERE TRUE, then there would be NO wealthy people anywhere else other than the USA, but oddly enough (at least oddly enough according to your statist theory that the government made this possible) there are people who manage to rise up everywhere. Further there are governments everwhere that practice the wealth redistribution that is inherent in your view. Some of the more notable ones are the economic powerhouses of North Korea and Cuba - both of which practice it to a greater degree than other countries. They should have the most wealth and the most wealthy people, but funny, the exact opposite is true. < sarcasm> I wonder why.< /sarcasm>

and I find particularly henious your support of a progressive tax and also find it somewhat annoying the hypocrisy of your sanctimonious comment about your "Christian" mind in that regard to a progressive tax.

A progressive tax rate makes perfect sense to my Christian mind.You don't ask people who are making twenty thousand dollars to pay the same amount as those making two hundred thousand dollars

First a non-progressive tax eg. a "flat" tax would not ask them to pay the same amount but rather the same rate. a 20% flat tax would take $4000 from the first and $40,000 from the second. look at your progressive tax structure under the current USA tax structure the first family would GET money probably about $2500 and the second would pay about $47,000. So in essence the hard work of the second is subsidizing the lifestyle of the first. How does your "christian mind" view this forced transfer. Do you consider one person being forced at gunpoint to pay for someone else WITHOUT ANY CONTROL OVER THAT PERSON"S ACTIONS "godly?" Second,

I don't see anything godly about making life harder for people who are barely getting by

But apparently you have no qualms about making life harder for those who are already working harder. A frequently ignored fact is that family income in the USA is statistically tied to hours worked per week in the family. Typically families in the "poverty" level work 20 or fewer hours per week. Families that hit the low end of middle class work 20 - 40 hours a week, famililes that hit the high end work 40-80 hours a week and wealth families hit 80 or more hours per week. Take a look at doctors. They make a lot of money and are a frequent target of envy by people with your progressive tax view. They live a hard life. Typically they work anywhere from 60 - 100 hours a week doing things that you are unable to do, risking disease and death by infectious disease by treating HIV and hep C positive patients. Now you think that their hard work should be penalized so that some welfare queen can spend her days drunk high and pregnant (gets a bigger check with more dependents) Hours per week correlation to wealth is not a hard and fast rule, but indicative.

Worldwide those countries with the most government typically have the least wealth and highest poverty. Look at the difference between China today and China 30 years ago. Whats different? LESS GOVERNMENT CONTROL AND LOWER TAXES _ LESS WEALTH TRANSFER NOW THAN BEFORE

Yeah, I do believe in safety nets when family isn't there for the least of society's poor

Ever heard of private charity? If I keep this up I'll get carpal tunnel syndrome bye.

342 posted on 11/13/2008 3:56:27 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: manc
I actually was agreeing with you but I worded it wrong and for that I am sorry.

No apology necessary. :)

We are on the same side in what is likely going to be a big fight and that's what counts. :)

343 posted on 11/13/2008 7:16:33 AM PST by Allegra
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To: Future Snake Eater

Let us know when you get back up here. We’ll have another party!


344 posted on 11/13/2008 7:41:20 AM PST by Just Lori (Liberalism ---->Socialism----->Communism------>BONDAGE!!!!)
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To: silverleaf

Rahm Emanuel is a ballet dancer. I surmise his “marriage” and family is a coverup of his real tendencies. According to a piece written about Emanuel in 2006, he was reported to prefer “balletic twirling” to roughhousing with his brothers. I think he is a fairy...


345 posted on 11/13/2008 11:08:59 AM PST by astounded (The democrat party is a clear and present danger to America)
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To: Spktyr
Are we talking about the zerO mandate civilian corps and their 3 months training and 50 jumping jacks? Against the denizens of the inner cities who are veterans of the drive-by?

Or, OTOH, are these CivDef troops going to be NG who have had real counter insurgency training. I wonder how many NG do have real CI training? While the troops are literate and perhaps read science fiction, especially the war fighter genre, I wonder how many of the street thugs are or do? And do they have to?

I have been reading speculative fiction for over 50 years, with a concentration in the post-apocalyptic, survivalist and dystopia sub-genres. And here we are.

346 posted on 11/13/2008 12:22:03 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: Spktyr
Are we talking about the zerO mandate civilian corps and their 3 months training and 50 jumping jacks? Against the denizens of the inner cities who are veterans of the drive-by?

Or, OTOH, are these CivDef troops going to be NG who have had real counter insurgency training. I wonder how many NG do have real CI training? While the troops are literate and perhaps read science fiction, especially the war fighter genre, I wonder how many of the street thugs are or do? And do they have to?

I have been reading speculative fiction for over 50 years, with a concentration in the post-apocalyptic, survivalist and dystopia sub-genres. And here we are.

347 posted on 11/13/2008 12:36:10 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal

It won’t be the National Guard, as liberals consider that to be the military for these purposes.

This is the proposed ZeroBrownshirts. Also, there’s a LOT of nasty stuff that even our veterans of Iraq haven’t seen even on COIN duty - either because Iraq didn’t have the prerequisites for it, or because the terrs didn’t have the resources. The Chechens, for example, came up with some *really* nasty tricks that they used on the Russians.


348 posted on 11/13/2008 6:51:08 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Pacothecat

349 posted on 11/13/2008 7:26:47 PM PST by Republican Extremist
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To: Pacothecat

S L A V E R Y.


350 posted on 11/13/2008 7:41:42 PM PST by TheFourthMagi
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To: Betty Jane
"We need a Henry Bowman. Who is he? Where is he? Does he still exist in America today?" - Betty Jane

It is not time for me to take the 20mm Solothurn out of storage yet. But Henry Bowman still exists. He operates in what we used to call "dispersed operating locations."

I am still trying to get people to think beyond the guns and the ammo box. Nothing wrong with either of them, but we all have to have our plans in place. Most people still don't have a plan... I'm actually going to be on local radio in Nashville from 11.00-12.00H central time this Saturday talking about having a plan in place, and knowing when to put it in to action. Not to be labeled as a seditionist, I am going to cover it from the "disaster preparedness" standpoint, but include personal and home defense.

I've written about this in previous posts since late September... I am trying to do what I can to bolster others' abilities before those abilities are needed.

Regards,
Raven6

351 posted on 11/13/2008 8:01:12 PM PST by Raven6 (The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either.)
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To: Warlord David
"Obama won!!!I not get over it for a while. I think I will go clean my weapons." - Warload David

I know how you feel... I spent three days sitting at the reloading bench, pulling the lever on my old press. Ran out of cleaned brass, and ran out of some of the bullets for my favorite loads. Not to worry, though - I'll have plenty before year end.

Regards,
Raven6

352 posted on 11/13/2008 8:06:51 PM PST by Raven6 (The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either.)
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To: Allegra

I imagine there will be an increase in home schooling if this gets greenlighted.


353 posted on 11/13/2008 9:03:36 PM PST by deputytess (Men of the West .....stand and FIGHT!)
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To: HollyB

I didn’t think it was possible but I think Michelle is going to turn out to be a bigger B***h then Hillary.


354 posted on 11/13/2008 9:10:54 PM PST by deputytess (Men of the West .....stand and FIGHT!)
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To: Munz; Allegra
That's the first thing that occured to me, too... the libs tried the argument with the national guard but it fell flat. By creating something specificallly "civilian" in name, they stand a better chance of overthrowing individual liberties with fabricated organized-group liberties.

I noticed the Democrat union minions were VERY aggressive this year in trying to take our county sheriff's seat. It looked like the guy they ran had quite a bit of cash. They ran a two or three-year very shrill campaign in the press against him even before their candidate be known, so who funded that?

Has anyone else here noticed the targetting of their sheriff's office by the unions in their areas? I'm curious to see if there was a national effort.

Everyone needs to pay particular attention to keeping Obama and Ayers types OUT of county sheriff seats by actively working for the good ones, or even running against the compromised ones, and studying their choices with care.

355 posted on 11/13/2008 10:57:45 PM PST by piasa (How's that change workin' for ya?)
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To: ctdonath2
Indeed. You can’t ...

So... how do all those illegals do it?

356 posted on 11/13/2008 11:03:04 PM PST by piasa (How's that change workin' for ya?)
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To: piasa

I don’t think people are making the connection here. It’s too bad too, because if they succeed they will definitely usurp the 2nd amendment this way.


357 posted on 11/14/2008 2:56:54 AM PST by Munz (Infiltrate Interrogate Eradicate NEXT!)
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To: deputytess
I didn’t think it was possible but I think Michelle is going to turn out to be a bigger B***h then Hillary.

Well that was obvious right our of the box. Never thought I'd long for the good old Clinton days.

358 posted on 11/14/2008 4:04:33 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: aruanan

Even though alot of Clinton cronies will be in the administration, I think this is going to be far different than a 3rd Clinton term. Some of Obama’s proposed policies will be unlike anything were accustomed too. Such as his service related policies that I am certain he will set into motion. His entire professional career has been geared towards the poor, not the middle class, not helping business owners, but the poor. His presidency is going to reflect this. Even though he appears to be anti-war, I think he’s going to be a trouble maker where trouble shouldn’t be started (Israel, Pakistan). I’m really glad we have FR, to keep each other aware.

But, first he’s got to tarnish the Republicans by putting Bush on trial, so that he can get elected again in 2012.


359 posted on 11/14/2008 5:14:34 AM PST by HollyB
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To: sport; 444Flyer

Did you hear abour the strict requirements to work for the Obama Administration. Talk about hypocracy. There are 63 questions. I’ve listed some of them below

Read this one:

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/11/obama_job_applicants_beware.html

1. Have you or your family own or ever owned a gun

2. If you ever sent an electronic communication (email/text/IM) that suggest conflict of interest or source of embaressment.

3. If you ever kept a diary that contains information of a conflict of interest or source of embaressment.

4. Traffic carrying fines less than $50.00 need not be reported.

5. List all aliases or handles used to to communicat on internet.

6. List any embaressing blog posts or facebook pages.

There are 63 of these type of questions!


360 posted on 11/14/2008 5:24:12 AM PST by HollyB
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