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The Myth That McCain Wasn't Conservative Enough
Pajamas Media ^ | November 11, 2008 | John Avalon

Posted on 11/11/2008 9:49:17 AM PST by AJKauf

After a losing presidential campaign, the candidate quickly (and often cruelly) is painted as an object lesson in what not to do — but that should not happen in 2008.

In order to truly revive itself, the GOP should be more like the real John McCain in the future, and less like the conservative cast of the past decade: George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and Tom Delay. And it certainly should not look to the likes of Mitt Romney or Sarah Palin to lead a restoration.

You do the math: America has a moderate majority — 50% of Americans are centrists, compared to 20% who are liberal and 30% who call themselves conservative. ,,,

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2010; 2012; gop; issues; mccain; myth; palin; rinoauthor; yeahright
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To: TigersEye

So voters don’t vote for candidates or not.
So Obama just walked into his new position.
Third Party voters can try their best to rationalize
or explain away their culpability for the Marxist we will
now have for President.


101 posted on 11/11/2008 1:32:19 PM PST by SoCalPol (In Defeat: Defiance - Churchill)
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To: SoCalPol

“Third Party voters can try their best to rationalize
or explain away their culpability for the Marxist we will
now have for President.”

At some point that old gripe has to be used up. No one is responsible for GOP loss except the GOP and the rinocrats they demand run for election.
Please stop blaming people who didn’t vote GOP for the GOP’s incompetence and corruption.


102 posted on 11/11/2008 1:35:55 PM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: Redbob

True. There won’t be a white guilt and black enthusiasm too. Guess how many blacks would have upset about the Messiah stabbing them in the back. They would feel he is as worse as a white candidate.


103 posted on 11/11/2008 1:43:31 PM PST by MooseChic
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To: AuntB

McCain was not my first choice but in the end we had two choices period.

Those who did’t vote for McCain can enjoy Obama.
Many on FR won’t have to see the third party voters complain about Obama over the next months, etc. as
choices due bring on consequences.


104 posted on 11/11/2008 1:43:37 PM PST by SoCalPol (In Defeat: Defiance - Churchill)
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To: SoCalPol
Third Party voters can try their best to rationalize or explain away their culpability for the Marxist we will now have for President.

Thank you for another fine display of victim hood mentality. Maybe you should start a support group. Or become a community organizer. LOL

105 posted on 11/11/2008 1:51:52 PM PST by TigersEye (I want some pie.)
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To: WOSG

Too late.


106 posted on 11/11/2008 2:00:08 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man." - Psalm 118:8)
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To: TigersEye

You are the victim, only you haven’t realized it yet.

In my legal work with the County Attys over the years,
have seen my share who were in denial.


107 posted on 11/11/2008 2:00:16 PM PST by SoCalPol (In Defeat: Defiance - Churchill)
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To: AJKauf

If we want to take back the country we better find our original conservative roots, a la Reagan, and stick to them. McCain was a thousand times better than Obama but not even close to a real conservative. Supporting the huge bailout, McCain/Feingold, immigration reform, etc are not the principles of a conservative. We could have defeated Obama with a real conservative platform.


108 posted on 11/11/2008 2:03:54 PM PST by yazoo
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To: SoCalPol

Yeah, I’m a victim. LOL And you’re unhinged.


109 posted on 11/11/2008 2:06:29 PM PST by TigersEye (I want some pie.)
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To: WOSG

Re: your link.

Newt Gingrich’s “solutions” are little more than the watered-down agenda of the Democrats, with gussied-up packaging.


110 posted on 11/11/2008 2:06:46 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man." - Psalm 118:8)
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To: TigersEye

Try your pissing contest with someone else.
Preferability a child to make it even.


111 posted on 11/11/2008 2:12:06 PM PST by SoCalPol (In Defeat: Defiance - Churchill)
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To: AJKauf
Obama made a more convincing argument that he was going to cut taxes then McCain.
Then when McCain stopped his campaign to give a trillion dollars to a failed industry that is what ended his campaign. I know there are very good arguments that it needed to be bailed out but this was a campaign that he was running, he had to sound conservative and he didn’t when he raced to bail out the rich bastards that screwed up their companies.

He should of stayed out of the bail out and literally voted ‘present’ even if he thought that would have been the wrong thing to do. Image is everything.

112 posted on 11/11/2008 2:14:10 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: ladtx

No! But McCain was a hell of a lot more conservative than Obama and yet 20% of conservatives though, even though he was pro-life, he was not pure enough and not worthy of their vote and through the rest of us, who cared enough about our country to vote for the man who didn’t consider himself the Messiah, to the wolves... if you want a pure conservative then every one who stayed home and didn’t vote needs to get off their duffs and change the primary system so only Republicans vote for Republicans and then when the person wins shut the heck up and support the winner and VOTE for the winner.


113 posted on 11/11/2008 2:15:09 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: AJKauf

Yeah, right. Senator Amnesty is a “conservative”. LOL


114 posted on 11/11/2008 2:16:16 PM PST by zeugma (Who is John Galt?)
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To: ArrogantBustard

The media wanted us to vote for Rudy!!!! What planet did you live on last year, the media IGNORED Rudy! They most-certainly did not want him as their candidate. In fact they wanted McCain and they got McCain and he stupidly thought the love-fest would continue; I suspect no one is more stunned at them turning on him than John McCain. Good grief Mort and Fred were gushing for months on The Beltway Boys how McCain was the guy... even before he was chosen, and then Mort turned on him on a dime...


115 posted on 11/11/2008 2:18:30 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn
"No! But McCain was a hell of a lot more conservative than Obama and yet 20% of conservatives though"

Freepers know the rest of the story. But if you are a conservative that was only listening to what was said by the Campaigns. Obama sounded more conservative then McCain with McCains trillion dollar bailout and Obamas tax brakes.

116 posted on 11/11/2008 2:26:14 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Arizona Carolyn
I lived in the Commonwealth of Virginia. The media most certainly did NOT ignore Rudy ... they were shoving him down our throats.

It's interesting how perceptions of which candidate was being thrust upon us vary ... but the fundamental remains: the media tried very hard (and succeeded) to influence the GOP primaries, in a manner harmful to the GOP.

117 posted on 11/11/2008 2:28:25 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: SoCalPol
Try making a little sense in just one of your posts.
I thought I was posting to a child.
118 posted on 11/11/2008 2:29:10 PM PST by TigersEye (I want some pie.)
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To: albie

Then too there is the question of the impulsive grasping of opportunities versus a steady hand on the helm and a willingness to lead the charge toward a consistent and long-identified goal that the troops have firmly in mind.


119 posted on 11/11/2008 2:36:20 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Are you saying conservatives have lost the ability to think for themselves and do actual research? ergo they voted for the guy who spun the most convincing lies? IF that is what you are saying then our country is farther gone than I feared.


120 posted on 11/11/2008 2:36:53 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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