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Detroit Auto Makers Need More Than a Bailout
WSJ ^ | 111008 | PAUL INGRASSIA

Posted on 11/10/2008 1:06:10 PM PST by Fred

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1 posted on 11/10/2008 1:06:12 PM PST by Fred
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To: Fred
You can leave comments at the WSJ Opinion Journal
2 posted on 11/10/2008 1:07:58 PM PST by Fred (The Democrat Party is the Nadir of Nihilism and BO is a WHINING marxist)
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"And a government-appointed receiver..."

Sounded pretty good until this part.

3 posted on 11/10/2008 1:10:42 PM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Fred
All you car companies are belong to us.

The Obama Policy: If we bail you out, we own ya!

4 posted on 11/10/2008 1:11:52 PM PST by softwarecreator (Wow, free food, free gas and no more mortgage payments after January 2009, thanks Obama!!)
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To: Fred
GM should enter voluntary bankruptcy now. Some portion of the company will continue. Chevy and Cadillac are probably keepers. Chrysler can close up shop, except for Jeep.
Too many brands, costs of manufacturing and labor are too high. Might as well face the music sometime.
5 posted on 11/10/2008 1:12:44 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Fred

They need cheap oil. Everything else is garbage. This should have been pushed in MI by Palin.


6 posted on 11/10/2008 1:13:18 PM PST by texmexis best
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To: Fred

The management team from Trabant is tanned, rested, and ready to take over!


7 posted on 11/10/2008 1:14:40 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Republic of Texas; All

UAW chief urges $25 bln in U.S. auto health care support (Union bailout-payback for $400,000,000)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2127523/posts


8 posted on 11/10/2008 1:15:23 PM PST by Fred (The Democrat Party is the Nadir of Nihilism and BO is a WHINING marxist)
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To: softwarecreator

Why doesn’t everyone that filed taxes get shares in these companies?
My plan for the car companies:

If you decide to buy from an American car company, the gov. send you a check for $5k-$10k to help make the payments or for a down payment.
This would go a long way to moving their inventory and at least the UAW doesn’t get their hands on the cash.


9 posted on 11/10/2008 1:15:42 PM PST by Holicheese (Get up Tom Brady, get up! PLEASE!!)
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In return for any direct government aid, the board and the management should go. Unions also No money for bail out unless the cause of the main problem is purged!
10 posted on 11/10/2008 1:16:48 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

yep...why throw good money at a company that’s held hostage by Unions. Their costs are more than their revenues...simple as that.

But the Unions OWN the Dems...so a bailout will happen.


11 posted on 11/10/2008 1:17:40 PM PST by HappyinAZ
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i know. On this issue, the Union leaders and Corporate leaders are arm in arm.


12 posted on 11/10/2008 1:18:06 PM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Fred

“tear up existing union contracts...” Yeah, that’s gonna fly with the bi-sexual, muslim, crackhead in the White House.


13 posted on 11/10/2008 1:19:49 PM PST by Monsieur Poirot
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To: Fred

Why would shareholders ever approve such a plan?

Under the WSJ - Big Government Bailout shareholders get d*ck. Under bankruptcy we might do better. And, they are not bankrupt yet.

I still say tough love. The management of the 1950s knew how to deal with this. Close everything for a few months starting immediately. Layoffs, layoffs, layoffs. Let the dealers sell out of invetory. Close over expenseive factories permanantly. Sell divisions off.

And, importantly, break the unions. Leave the most unionized workers on layoff until their contracts expire.

We need good old top-hatted capitalism here, and instead we have the leading (so-called) capitalist rag calling for confiscation of private property by Obama. What a joke.

At least in bankruptcy court: 1) over generous pensions can be reduced. 2) union contracts can be voided and 3) there is some hope that shareholders get something in the end.


14 posted on 11/10/2008 1:20:38 PM PST by Jack Black
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Capitalism is harsh - it creates winners and losers. Liberals don’t like harsh; they want everyone to feel good. Airlines go bankrupt on a regular basis and we survive. Worldcom went bye-bye and the government said no to an Enron lifeline. We lived through it and became stronger. Medling by politicians does not all the market to cull the herd.


15 posted on 11/10/2008 1:22:58 PM PST by Renkluaf
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Who's your DADDY Obama??

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16 posted on 11/10/2008 1:27:13 PM PST by Fred (The Democrat Party is the Nadir of Nihilism and BO is a WHINING marxist)
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To: Fred

Capitalism on the way up, socialism/fascism on the way down.

The definition of a free-market is NOT a market in which every business in every sector always profits. If you are not free to both succeed and fail, then you are not free at all. Being big does not change that. $2 trillion in corporate welfare was enough of a mistake - let the automakers fail, let all of the union-infested companies go down in flames. The first to die can be cannibalized by those remaining; if gaps open in certain market segments, unburdened automakers like Toyota and Honda will be more than willing to fill them.

Distorting the auto market is exactly what will stifle innovation, lead to higher consumer prices (whether by taxes, regulations, or the fostering of corporate incompetence), and bring us that much closer to a socialist/fascist economy.


17 posted on 11/10/2008 1:28:25 PM PST by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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To: Republic of Texas

What a nightmare world we live in.
Company is run into the ground by stupid management.
They decided on products that no one wants to buy.

Why bail them out? How will this teach management to
make smarter decisions in the future?

How can the bailout process possibly be fair?
Who decides what lives and what dies?

No, however painful letting GM to its own future
is only fair to the future Henery Ford and Lee Iacocca
types out in the world.

Rewarding serial failure is stupid.


18 posted on 11/10/2008 1:28:37 PM PST by blue_nova
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Let’s start a list of all the sectors of our economy that will be nationalized under Abamo:
1. Education (oops already is nationalized)
2. Healthcare (oops almost all of it is nationalized and with the Baby Boomers about to all go on Medicare, it will almost be complete)
3. Oil & Natural Gas (a la Hugo Chavez) and if the Feds control the oil fields in Alaska and won’t allow drilling, that’s a form of nationalization
4. Military (an example of rightful nationalization
according to the Constitution)
5. The Banking and Mortgage Industry
6. Automotive Manufacturing when their bailout comes
7. The State of California will be nationalized when they go bankrupt and we bail them out
8. The State of new York when they go bankrupt and we bail them out.
9. Could we nationalize the production of food (oh my mistake, we already have federal subsidies for farms)
What am I missing?????


19 posted on 11/10/2008 1:28:54 PM PST by veritas2002
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Where is the authority in the Constitution for this? Thanks for playing.


20 posted on 11/10/2008 1:28:54 PM PST by Sir Gawain (Dear President Obama, where's my free stuff?)
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