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To: nomad

You really need to help me with this logic: we are in a sinking ship, so we need to make the hole in the hull larger?


11 posted on 11/09/2008 12:48:17 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
If they have a abundance of cash they will be able to institutionalize ALL their Utopian plans.Just like the welfare programs of “the great society” they`ll become initiative sucking, money mooching vampires that will never die, no matter how many stakes you drive into their hearts.
14 posted on 11/09/2008 12:53:00 PM PST by nomad
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To: 1rudeboy
You really need to help me with this logic: we are in a sinking ship, so we need to make the hole in the hull larger?

Look at it this way: your ship had a really big hole punched in it on November 4 and it is going to sink whether you like it or not.

You do have a choice to get on the life boat with as much of your luggage as you can or you can choose to go down with the ship.

16 posted on 11/09/2008 12:57:07 PM PST by seowulf (Discipline knows no emotion and frequently runs counter to the whims of panic or elation.)
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To: 1rudeboy
Also,it is a chance to keep them off balance till we can rebuild a Conservative party to begin the daunting task of retaking the congress and eventually the white house.As I said,I believe the sheeple won`t care about Bush in two years,the hype about the one was too intense,look at the way he`s had to burst their fragile little bubbles already.Well we need to show them he`s no miracle worker,you let the economy repair itself in a year and forget about sending him packing in 4 years,thats a guarantee!
18 posted on 11/09/2008 12:59:26 PM PST by nomad
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To: 1rudeboy
The ship is sinking and we are told that WE are to blame for it. We are the people who believe the ship is still sea worthy, in fact we are the ones who have worked to make it so. The other side on the other hand is sitting by the pool sipping their cocktails and marveling at the rushing water.

We expect the ship to float only when we all take part it keeping it doing so, the other side just expects it to float cause it always has, never acknowledging the part they are supposed to play.

This analogy is about more than just the economy, it's about what was the American way. Freedom and liberty require maintenance, they require we all participate and safeguard it from those that cherish the almighty dollar more than their right to EARN it.

A majority of people in this country have sat around the pool while a small group of others waited on them. Those moochers have now taken over the ship. Your choice is simple, do you continue to fight to keep it afloat, or do you prepare yourself for the sinking?

To put a finer point on the choice we all now face. Picture yourself in a small boat with two other people. You are wearing a life vest, the other two aren't and they haven't learned how to swim. The boat starts to take on water and you work feverishly to bail the water out with a cup. The other two are not helping, one is complaining that the water is not receding and the other is enjoying the scenery. How long would you continue to try to keep the boat afloat? YOU have the life vest, YOU will survive. They will not, one is assuming you'll take care of it and they other just wants to criticize your effort, without lifting a finger to help. There is NO shame in saving yourself, it is in fact your duty to save yourself. You will do no one any good by tossing your life vest overboard and going down with the boat. Those two ungrateful bastards will blame you as they drown, but it will be of little use, they have suffered the end they deserve for not caring enough about their own lives to help keep the boat afloat.

They have done this to themselves, your job now is to mitigate the damage that will be done to you and to survive and thrive.

47 posted on 11/09/2008 2:02:42 PM PST by tonyinv ($)
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To: 1rudeboy; Desdemona
Well, this isn't directly addressed to your point, but it seems to me we can and maybe should be more conscious of how much of our economic activity strengthens the enemies of the economy.

As Desdemona says, a lot of charities, while they may do some good, provide good employment for people many of whom are liberals. Think of your local lending library. If it isn't already an arm of the state, I'd bet serious donuts that most who work their are unabashed Obama-ites.

51 posted on 11/09/2008 2:38:14 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: 1rudeboy

The ship is sinking. The ship is going down. What do you do? What do you tell your friends or family, here come stay on the sinking ship with me? No, you send them to the lifeboats. You take responsiblity for the safety and security of your family, you don’t give that responsiblity over to anyone else.

Second, Ayn Rand taught us in her fictional book Atlas Shrugged that in order to stop socialism, marxism, fascism etc. one must stop feeding it. Stop putting money, mind, and productivity into it.


80 posted on 11/10/2008 3:56:01 AM PST by EBH (Directive 10-289)
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