Posted on 11/08/2008 11:46:57 PM PST by 444Flyer
That mentality lets me know that mob rules now.
So instead of breaking up the neantherdals for acting in riot form, we arrest the guy who might “cause” them to riot.
Yeah, laws are useless. It’s all about what the MAJORITY wants.
So, we have to remove an individuals CONSTITUTIONAL rights to protect him from the rioters who would be breaking the law.
And this from a Freeper...
That is what will bring this nation down.
So your logic is that McCain/Palin is the equivalent to a racist Tshirt.
I think we have our work cut out for us.
And I’m not optimistic even reading this thread on FR this morning.
No, of course not, but to the voters of Obombus, it is.
“I wonder what the military thinks?”
That’s a good question. I know the oath I took was to defend the US Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic. I took that oath seriously, and I’ve never waived it.
I am confident the US military, especially the officer corps, take that oath just as seriously, as do the majority of the professional NCOs; and, since we have an all-volunteer force I like to think the rank-and-file do, as well.
But it will be interesting to see what happens, what the military will do, if the Obama Administration oversteps and starts to unleash on us the legions of modern-day storm troopers he has intimated he will create. I can see a military coup d’ etat in that event, or at least a refusal to carry out certain orders.
I understand what you are saying, I really do.
I just don’t like the precident being set that an individuals rights are superceded by the mob rule.
And ironically, that same logic is what created slavery.
They are still on a "high" from the Phillies winning the World Series, and this could have escalated into a full scale riot with a lot of cops getting hurt.
Philly is a mess, to be sure, check out the you tube vids of the New Black Panthers "protecting" polling sites:
National Black Panther (NBP) goons intimidating white poll watchers in Philly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd_5SlP8IpQ&feature=related
NBP thug exhibits his highly developed intellect and integrity:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek78MhY84xs&feature=related
Philly cops show up to deal with the situation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTtk4iXv_xY&feature=related
Sorry about the links, I have to get to work this AM, so cut and paste.
Are you supposed to remain silent if there is a fire?
btt
I think you’ve misjudged me and my post.
I don’t think I’ve misjudged this:
“In this particular instance, the police had a good reason to tell him to leave, to avoid a physical disturbance and incite the crowd to violence.”
So his constitutional rights being taken away are to “protect him”. Nice.
Constitutional rights are there as long as a large group of people who are acting illegally don’t like it.
A Philadelphia police officer did this? I wonder if one of them was the dad of Patrick (The Lion of Bahgdad) Murphy?
First of all, enumerate the Constitutional right that was violated.
Second, the police have a duty to protect him and property. In this case, having watched the video and reading the transcripts, I do think they acted accordingly.
pretty sad state of affairs when a T-shirt can incite the crowd to violence....doesn’t say much for the crowd or what they believe in
“First of all, enumerate the Constitutional right that was violated.”
First amendment.
And why did they (the mob) have a right to be there, but he didn’t?
Let’s not forget he had, what turned out to be, a plastic knife or sword, and we still don’t know what transpired before the video started.
But, I agree, it’s sad that expressing your opinion, such as wearing a shirt with your political choice imprinted on it, is cause to incite or be ridiculed or screamed at.
I wouldn’t do that to a 0bama supporter, in fact, I wished they would all self identify themselves in a like manner. :O)
The police did no such thing. He was still expressing his opinion, as the shirt clearly did, when he arrested.
It wasn’t a matter of a right to be there, it was a matter of safety, his, and protecting property.
If you’ve ever had your stores windows broken out because some idiots thought right in front of those windows would be a great place to settle their differences, you’d understand.
“It wasnt a matter of a right to be there, it was a matter of safety, his, and protecting property.”
I’m so glad that my constitutional rights of expression are directly in line behind someone else’s idea of “my safety”.
And if some idiots broke my property, I’d expect them to be in jail. For that, not for standing in the street with a shirt on.
So how high up on priority is constitutional rights in your book? 5th? 19th?
Be careful. Be very careful. And be especially careful where you send your children. There are places in America, including schools, that are toxic.
The concluding message of Tom Wolfe’s “Bonfire of the Vanities” was separation.
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