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Lowry: For Republican McCain, the center did not hold
The Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 2008-11-07 | Rich Lowry

Posted on 11/07/2008 6:28:12 PM PST by rabscuttle385

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To: DiogenesLaertius
McCain was a perfect illustration of why U.S. Senators make such terrible presidential candidates . . . because they are among the dullest mediocrities you'll ever meet.

This year's race involved two morons who had no chance in hell of winning a presidential election -- except they were running against each other.

61 posted on 11/07/2008 7:34:45 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Why did he lose the center?

"It's the economy stupid"

62 posted on 11/07/2008 7:38:35 PM PST by Darren McCarty (Don't blame me. I voted for McCain/Palin)
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To: rabscuttle385
The “W” cheerleaders were the “center-right”. And we have the election results from 2006 and 2008 to prove it.
63 posted on 11/07/2008 7:43:49 PM PST by LiberConservative (Obama voter: "We gonna get PAID!!!!")
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To: beaversmom

Not that shit again.


64 posted on 11/07/2008 7:56:54 PM PST by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: rabscuttle385

bttt


65 posted on 11/07/2008 9:00:26 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: cripplecreek
Doesn’t sound like the PUMAs turned out in the numbers they assured us they would either.

In many places, McCain underperformed down-ticket Republicans. The number of votes McCain lost from the base exceeded anything the PUMAs were expected to do; I don't know how you could tell whether the PUMAs showed up or not.

66 posted on 11/07/2008 9:03:49 PM PST by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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To: joesbucks
Nice try.

If he were running to the right he would have thrown red meat about the following:

1) Franklin Raines, Jamie Gorelick, Barney Frank, Rohm Emmanuel and their ties to Fannie and Freddie;

2) Tying Obama to Pelosi/Reid;

3) "No child left Alive" in Illinois;

4) Obama's plans to cut the military and start a civilian force as well funded as the military:

5) William Ayers;

6) Obama's missing years at Columbia;

7) Reverend "God D#mn America" Wright;

8) Obama's VAST inexperience to lead the ticket OR the country;

9) Obama's ties to Rezko;

10) Obama's attendance at Muslim schools in his youth and his quote about the beauty of the Muslim declaration of faith;

11) his gaffe to Stephanopouos about "my Muslim faith");

12) The unspeakable trashing of Sarah Palin and her family;

13) Obama's plans for drastic cuts in nuclear weapons;

14) His overt socialism;

15) Tying Obama to the subprime mess and bailout (3rd most $$ from lobbyists)

16) The Thug tactics used during the Dem caucuses.

17) The Birth Certificate

...none of which featured prominently from McCain at all.

Nice try, though.

67 posted on 11/07/2008 10:07:44 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: rabscuttle385
If you don't run as a conservative, you lose the middle. Just ask Chris Shays.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

68 posted on 11/07/2008 10:07:57 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: DiogenesLaertius
I supported the guy, but his ability to run an organization was probably the worse of any candidate since Jimmy Carter.

That's ok, Obama's ability to run an administration will be even worse THAN Jimmy Carter.

I pray the country survives.

69 posted on 11/07/2008 10:09:02 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Just mythoughts
Yep there you go.... Now exactly what is it you despise about Tom DeLay???

His absence.

70 posted on 11/07/2008 10:11:08 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: joesbucks
McCain ran as the dream candidate of Neocon RINO social liberals.

That's who he is.

That's why he lost.

71 posted on 11/07/2008 10:14:19 PM PST by TheFourthMagi
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To: rabscuttle385
What did those idiots in the McCain Campaing, NRSC, and NRCC think would happen when they decided to allow the left to define th eissues, especially the economy?

It'll be news when Rick Davis and these other schmucks commit seppuku. Until then, they are spitting at me and calling it rain.
72 posted on 11/07/2008 10:18:51 PM PST by rmlew (NYARLATHOTEP / BIDEN'08 . If you don't believe me check out the first's wikipedia page.)
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To: rabscuttle385
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According to exit polls, Barack Obama won moderates by a whopping 21 points on Tuesday, 60-39 percent. That more than doubled John Kerry's nine-point margin over George W. Bush among moderates in 2004.

And yet Bush was widely recognized, even reviled, as "too conservative". More conservative than McCain, for the most part, esp. on social issues.

So what's up with McCain underperforming a more conservative campaign with the centrist voters?

Sounds to me like the writer doesn't understand the question.

73 posted on 11/08/2008 2:19:43 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: joesbucks
Turned the middle off big time.

Bull. More conservative campaigns got their votes.

Try another idea.

74 posted on 11/08/2008 2:22:28 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Alberta's Child
This year's race involved two morons who had no chance in hell of winning a presidential election -- except they were running against each other.

I disagree with Obama's being a "moron". I think he's scary-smart, well-trained (by Communists), very rational, very detached, and therefore extremely dangerous.

His personality reminds me a little of what I've read about Lincoln, who was very patient and rational and always played extremely close to the vest, as Obama is doing. Lincoln was very unrevealing of his intentions at every critical juncture, whether it was commencement of the war or promulgation of the Emancipation Proclamation or the complete abolition of slavery (he ran on a plank that said the Republicans would not interfere with slavery where it existed -- funny thing happened along the way to Gettysburg, though).

Obama has yet to articulate an agenda, and I don't think we will ever see one clearly propounded. He will pursue it behind cloaks and veils.

And in case you don't think Lincoln was dangerous to his adversaries, count the Civil War dead -- 620,000 on the battlefield, nearly a million overall. Then ask yourself, would Obama scruple at such a holocaustic piling-up of dead, in pursuing his policy objectives? Which man do you think more innately scrupulous -- Lincoln or Obama?

75 posted on 11/08/2008 2:44:49 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: TheFourthMagi
He lost because of the perception Bush has screwed things up. Otherwise, why did Harry and Nancy gain seats too?

He lost because moderates were afraid of Governor Palin.

He lost because of the financial meltdown.

He lost because of his coziness to SoCons. While the gay initiatives passed, the life initiatives didn't.

He lost the young vote to the democratic version (for now) of Reagan. A man who could communicate to the masses.

76 posted on 11/08/2008 3:52:47 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: grey_whiskers

The people who didn’t vote for McCain/Palin weren’t interested in red meat. They did throw some around with Palin doing the most of it. It didn’t work.


77 posted on 11/08/2008 3:53:58 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: joesbucks
You wrote in post 4:

Always said you need the moderates to win. McCain tried to run to the right and cozy up to the people he has always been least comfortable with. SoCons.

Turned the middle off big time.

I refuted this, in post 67, by showing all the red meat to the right NOT persued by McCain.

You replied:

The people who didn’t vote for McCain/Palin weren’t interested in red meat. They did throw some around with Palin doing the most of it. It didn’t work.

So first you say he ran to the right. I show all the ways he DIDN'T. Your response is to change the subject and repeat your erroneous claim.

So -- I checked your posting history -- and to judge from the following
here,
here,
here,
here,
and here, to name just a few, you appear to be a troll.

78 posted on 11/09/2008 8:26:02 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
Get real. A troll since 1997. Right!

Look, I supported McCain. But I didn't support his move to the right. It looked cheap. I didn't support his Palin pick because she was weak. She may be an effective governor, but she wasn't ready for the task that she accepted.

I didn't support her use of red meat issues when other issues were more pressing. Beside red meat issues are like peeing in your pants. You feel all warm and smug for about two second and then your left wet and soggy and miserable. But some conservatives like a dirty diaper.

I do believe that she saw this as an opportunity to tune up her chances for something later at the expense of McCain.

I do have the ability to discern. McCain was the better of the two candidates. Frankly, McCain was much better in 2000. But he was running with an anchor of his own party from that campaign around his neck. His own party has been conditioned the past 8+ years to hate him from friendly fire from his own people. He's lucky he did as well as he did.

I can differentiate the things I was unhappy about with this campaign and still have supported the ticket.

79 posted on 11/09/2008 8:41:28 AM PST by joesbucks
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