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To: mrsmel; Obadiah; Mind-numbed Robot; A.Hun; johnny7; The Spirit Of Allegiance; atomic conspiracy; ...
Yes, but everytime it’s election time again, we go all wobbly and partisan, and everyone says “we can’t let a rat win, we have to vote for the Pub, even if he’s soft on a lot of conservative issues, because the ‘rat’s worse”. In local and national elections, we do this.
And it’s true to a point-it’s either the rat, or the rat-lite. Third party candidates have never been viable.
That is correct - but you will note that I did not say "third party," I said "second party." The McCain Party is what is patently not viable; if the Republican Party insists on retaining that model it will be a third party. The only questions on the table then will be whether the Democratic Party itself continues to cohere in the face of the consequences of its own success, and how strong our second party can become. I think the RINO wing of the Republican Party will lose a lot of confidence as the consequences of this election play out.

If after 3 years of Marxist rule we still actually have a meaningful election again, it will be because socialism has discredited itself beyond the ability even of Judas Goat Journalism to deny it, and of the median American to believe it even to the extent that they continue to do. I got out of the market yesterday, finally. Obviously late, but there are still people who will buy and the time to sell is when you have a buyer. I find it difficult to believe that much of anything I sold will appreciate significantly without dropping even lower in the next handful of years. In that scenario the mass of people who realize that Judas Goat Journalism leaves crucial things unsaid will go critical.

IMHO this election has baked certain things in the cake. Among them are:

After that scenario has played out for a couple of years, we will see whether "Reaganism is dead" or not.

11 posted on 11/07/2008 2:08:28 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The conceit of journalistic objectivity is profoundly subversive of democratic principle.)
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BTTT


12 posted on 11/07/2008 2:54:47 AM PST by E.G.C. (Click on a freeper's screename and then "In Forum" to read his/her posts)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
'IMHO this election has baked certain things in the cake. Among them are:

geopolitical disasters which will wrench our stomachs like the Bay of Pigs did in 1961. And worse.

Obama will find himself on a slippery slope which makes things worse and worse, and he will fail in one specific objective of his. The Alinsky objective of making change slow enough to boil the frog without causing it to jump will IMHO elude him because of the "butterfly effect."

The credit markets will continue to tank, and nothing he is willing to do will avail. Tax rate increases will cause tax revenue declines .

He will be forced to print dollars by the ton, and that will cause Carteresque inflation. Pensions and Social Security will continue at their same dollar levels, but shortages and inflation will eviscerate their value very painfully.

He will slash the military, but that will produce unemployed soldiers and idle defense workers. And the weakness of the country will weaken the dollar and increase the cost of imports.

"Wage and price controls" ("censorship of supply/demand information" would be the honest way to characterize them) will be imposed, but they will do the only thing that they possibly can do - cause shortages and unemployment.

Corruption "gaming the system" will be endemic. After that scenario has played out for a couple of years, we will see whether "Reaganism is dead" or not.

*MEGA PING*

14 posted on 11/07/2008 8:14:40 AM PST by T Lady (Palin-Jindal 2012)
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"Wages and price controls.....will be imposed, but they will do the only thing they can possibly do-cause shortages and unemployment".

We had wages and price controls in Canada in the 1970's. I worked at a steel plant and wages were frozen. The penalties for workers, unions and others who disregarded the freeze were 10 thousand dollar fines and up to five years imprisonment. There were other penalties for others, I think management, of a monetary sum up to 10 years imprisonment.

The department stores were allowed a mandatory 10% increase in certain goods. Indignant shoppers compared old packets with new ones and found often the prices had risen. Beryl Plumptre the bureaucrat in charge, said each complaint could be brought before certain authorities. One at a time.

Some department stores had over 5000 separate items listed. There was no way anyone could check in a comprehensive manner. Hardly worth anyones time to complain. The workers who got say $5.50 cents an hour, were joyfully kept at that rate by the management.

After a year they got rid of the controls, I believe. Plumptre had to put a lock on her garbage can. Jokers had been into it,curious about her life style. She did not suffer, of course

15 posted on 11/07/2008 9:06:39 PM PST by Peter Libra
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