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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Yes, but everytime it’s election time again, we go all wobbly and partisan, and everyone says “we can’t let a rat win, we have to vote for the Pub, even if he’s soft on a lot of conservative issues, because the ‘rat’s worse”. In local and national elections, we do this. And it’s true to a point-it’s either the rat, or the rat-lite. Third party candidates have never been viable. Even the pubs who run conservatively, morph before our eyes once they’re safely in the club. They’re not “true believers” determined to fulfill an agenda, unlike most rats. What’s the answer? I’m about ready to vote straight rat now, just to tie up the loose ends. This would accomplish two things-put it squarely in their laps-at this point, they own it all anyway, it won’t hurt anything-and two, show the wobbly Pubs that we mean business, they won’t get our votes.

At any other time, it could’ve done damage (at least we told ourselves this) to vote for rats-now, since they have a lock on it all anyway, it would be more effective to punish the Pubs for playing with us.


10 posted on 11/06/2008 6:35:54 PM PST by mrsmel (That one is not my president.)
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To: mrsmel; Obadiah; Mind-numbed Robot; A.Hun; johnny7; The Spirit Of Allegiance; atomic conspiracy; ...
Yes, but everytime it’s election time again, we go all wobbly and partisan, and everyone says “we can’t let a rat win, we have to vote for the Pub, even if he’s soft on a lot of conservative issues, because the ‘rat’s worse”. In local and national elections, we do this.
And it’s true to a point-it’s either the rat, or the rat-lite. Third party candidates have never been viable.
That is correct - but you will note that I did not say "third party," I said "second party." The McCain Party is what is patently not viable; if the Republican Party insists on retaining that model it will be a third party. The only questions on the table then will be whether the Democratic Party itself continues to cohere in the face of the consequences of its own success, and how strong our second party can become. I think the RINO wing of the Republican Party will lose a lot of confidence as the consequences of this election play out.

If after 3 years of Marxist rule we still actually have a meaningful election again, it will be because socialism has discredited itself beyond the ability even of Judas Goat Journalism to deny it, and of the median American to believe it even to the extent that they continue to do. I got out of the market yesterday, finally. Obviously late, but there are still people who will buy and the time to sell is when you have a buyer. I find it difficult to believe that much of anything I sold will appreciate significantly without dropping even lower in the next handful of years. In that scenario the mass of people who realize that Judas Goat Journalism leaves crucial things unsaid will go critical.

IMHO this election has baked certain things in the cake. Among them are:

After that scenario has played out for a couple of years, we will see whether "Reaganism is dead" or not.

11 posted on 11/07/2008 2:08:28 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The conceit of journalistic objectivity is profoundly subversive of democratic principle.)
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To: mrsmel

We need a good conservative, yes there are still many out there, who will set the tone for his campaign and stick with it, polls be damned! Rather than political consultants and pollsters, the bane of every conservative, he should hire technicians and clerks to do the necessary field work.

Most of all he should say, “Screw the mushy moderates! Screw reaching across the aisle! Here is what I believe and here is why I believe it!

Join me in retaking America and returning her to what she was intended to be!”


13 posted on 11/07/2008 5:49:39 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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