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How to avoid another RINO nominee? Eliminate primaries.
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Posted on 11/05/2008 11:44:10 AM PST by Brookhaven

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To: Brookhaven
I don't mind primaries particularly, but I don't see why Iowa and New Hampshire should continually be the kingmakers.

I'd prefer a system similar to a sports team draft. The states where Republicans did the best in the general election get to vote first in the primaries. So the first week, you'd have the 5 most Republican states vote, then the 2nd week you'd have states 6-10 vote, etc.
21 posted on 11/05/2008 12:00:34 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority (My Success Is Not Determined By Who Wins Elections)
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To: Brookhaven

The problem is not primaries, it’s the manner and timing in which they are held that pretty much eliminates newer, less well known players getting into the game.

Instead we should divide it up into 5 primary dates comprised of roughly 10 regionally contiguous states which allows for candidates 1 month to campaign in those 10 states
Feb-June and choose the order of dates/regions by lot.

Part of the problem is the Boomer generation, once control of the GOP is wrested away from their cold dead fingers. But as long as the Rino/Entitlement generation outvotes the rest of us........ we’re stuck.


22 posted on 11/05/2008 12:02:26 PM PST by Valpal1 (Always be prepared to make that difference.)
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To: pineybill
It would probably be difficult to eliminate primaries, but Republicans should at least change the rules on all those early primaries that are totally open to Independents. R’s only! It’s our party, let us choose.

You are correct the rules on who can vote in a party's primary should be changed, but that also will be difficult. In Arizona independants can vote in the primary of their choice, that foolishnes was forced on us by ignorant voters through initiative, which can only be changed by another initiative.

23 posted on 11/05/2008 12:02:35 PM PST by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: Vaquero

“caucuses gave us Obama over Hitlery.”

It also gave the Democrats the candidate that was more in tune with their core beliefs. Obama (the far left wing socialist.)

“all things considered we would have been better with Hitlerly. Might have even been able to beat Hitlery in the general...”

The purpose of the system isn’t to nominate the candidate that is easiest for the other party to beat (although it sure seems like the Republican system is rigged to do just that.)

“caucuses are anti-individual. It goes against conservatism and the rugged individualism that built this country.”

Primaries are anti-first amendment (right of association). They force political parties to allow non-members to choose their nominee. Would you favor forcing churches to allow non-church members to choose their next pastor? Of course not, but somehow allowing non-party members (and even members of the other party) to chose a party’s nominee makes sense?


24 posted on 11/05/2008 12:03:16 PM PST by Brookhaven (.)
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To: Yo-Yo

Agreed.


25 posted on 11/05/2008 12:03:19 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Brookhaven

No, the problem is eliminating OPEN nominating processes. The early primaries were “Open” primaries, allowing non-Republicans to vote in them.

The RNC needs to put forth a rule: The Republican Nominating Process is a contest of Republicans, for Republicans. You must be a registered Republican in order to participate.


26 posted on 11/05/2008 12:03:28 PM PST by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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To: Brookhaven

1. Close the primaries

2. Start the primaries in states in order of degree of McCain’s win to the worst loss.

E.g., start in Kentucky, Texas, etc.

Iowa can go f—k itself.


27 posted on 11/05/2008 12:03:57 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (A Jew voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.)
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To: Brookhaven

And why the Republicans scheduled primaries on different days than the Democratic primaries—I don’t get it. Why allow a perfect opportunity for the Dems to pick our person? We don’t cross over as much as they do—we’re too honorable to vote in a primary not our own. We are so dumb.


28 posted on 11/05/2008 12:04:50 PM PST by MHT
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To: Brookhaven

Actually, the problem isn’t primaries. The problem is that so many early primaries allowed open voting, that is, democrats and independents to vote for the Republican nominee. That allowed the Dems to engage in their own minor version of “Operation Chaos” and independents to vote for their (then) beloved maverick.


29 posted on 11/05/2008 12:05:15 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Brookhaven

Primaries are much better than caucuses but the primaries MUST be closed.


30 posted on 11/05/2008 12:07:04 PM PST by visualops (portraits.artlife.us or visit my freeper page)
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To: saganite

States like GA have no party registration. You simply walk up to the voting desk and ask for a Democratic or Republican ballot.

I doubt you could get a state like GA to start registering people by party, much less requiring you to be a member of one before voting.


31 posted on 11/05/2008 12:07:43 PM PST by Brookhaven (.)
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To: The_Reader_David

I’m on board with ending the open primaries. Here is another thought. Why can’t Republicans change their primaries in order of the states that had the highest Republican % in the last Presidential election?

Logistical problems I’m sure maybe legal ramifications as well. But I’m tired of VERY liberal states like Michigan, New Hampshire and Iowa having so much influence on our Republican candidate selection.

The primaries in very red Texas and other red states were meaningless when it came our turn to vote.


32 posted on 11/05/2008 12:08:11 PM PST by Kandy Atz ("Let him rave on that men may know him mad.")
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To: Dixie Yooper

Senator Stevens(R) needs to resign his seat so that Sarah can run for the Senate.


33 posted on 11/05/2008 12:09:16 PM PST by rivercat (Draft Newt for RNC Chairman!)
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To: Brookhaven

Then there’s no way to prevent Democrats from wrecking the nomination process in Ga but other states require registering as R, D or I.


34 posted on 11/05/2008 12:09:52 PM PST by saganite (I for one welcome our new Socialist masters /s/)
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To: Brookhaven
Simple, change the rules so that all GOP state primaries are held on April 15th.
35 posted on 11/05/2008 12:11:52 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Question Liberal Authority
The states where Republicans did the best in the general election get to vote first in the primaries.

That's a very good idea, with a closed primary.

There may be issues with the other parties on changing dates, but the states do have the right to decide the date of their primary.

Anyone see problems with this?

36 posted on 11/05/2008 12:12:27 PM PST by Navy Patriot (The beauty of conservatism, Sarah Palin.)
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To: Brookhaven
A couple of things that must be corrected.

1: Only allow registered republicans to vote in our primaries.

2: Don't let Iowa and then New Hampshire to get all the attention. Schedule 10 or so primaries 5 times so that no one state gets all the attention.

37 posted on 11/05/2008 12:14:46 PM PST by McGruff (It took a Jimma Carta to give us a Ronald Reagan.)
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To: Brookhaven

The solution to the primary system is to hold every state’s primary on the same day. Make the candidates campaign like they will for the general election.


38 posted on 11/05/2008 12:19:13 PM PST by Two Kids' Dad (((( Leftists deserve all the suffering they'll get. We don't. ))))
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To: MeanWestTexan

I made a similar point earlier. The states that hold primaries/caucasus early...IA, NH, tend to want a RINO. To heck with them. Let the most conservative states hold them first. Why give an advantage to a RINO loving/DIM VOTING state?


39 posted on 11/05/2008 12:20:22 PM PST by NELSON111
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To: Brookhaven

1 man 1 vote.

we need to have secret ballots....I don’t need someone telling me how to vote. some trys to tell me how to vote I might have to re-arrange their faces.

also these things may work in flyover country where you have a minimum of people at play...it does not work where millions of people live in tight quarters.


40 posted on 11/05/2008 12:20:37 PM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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