I have no intention of flaming you. Many of us saw different trends developing than what actually happened. I figured that the voters of PA have been called racist rednecks and the Democrats want to kill the coal industry, surely there will be opposition to this, right? Instead, they proved that no, they’re not bothered by insults and their livelihood being destroyed. It’s not your fault.
I have another comment. Why are we allowing NH and Iowa to pick our candidates for the Republican Party when BOTH states went to the Dems. Time to dump Iowa and NH as first in the Nation IMHO!
Why not Oklahoma? For the FIRST time Oklahoman Republicans control the OK Senate in the history of the State, we kept the OK House, we took back a Corporation Commission seat and kept the other one, returned Sen Inhofe to the Senate, sent back 4/5 House Members, and voted for McCain 66 - 33.
When all those coal miners start whining and crying ‘cause they don’t have a job, I don’t even want to hear it. The “Rust Belt” is the “Rust Belt” for a reason. To paraphrase Rev. Wright, “their chickens will have come home to roost”.
It’s cool, you just got got up in wishful thinking. Obviously McCain was never close in PA.
Acorn, bailout, that has nothing to do with it. It’s a state that leans rat, period. A rat is winning the country he’s gonna be taking PA.
Obama has been leading for all election except during the Palin bounce.
Two failures tonight ...
Bipartisanship, reaching across the aisle and the nonsense that you capture the center that way, big time up in flames. McCain's inherent fault.Compassionate Conservatives, meaning not standing up and fighting for your programs and beliefs, never a winner to make yourself into the opposition's punching bag. Both deader than the doornail. Bush's inherent fault.
Conservatism won ... And lives to fight another day. Crystal clear conservative message that broadcast crystal clear first principles, is the way forward.
Dont feel bad I was telling everyone that the Hillary
votes was going to win it for Mccain,shows you what I
know.I would say we will get them in four years but
hell we may not have a country in four years.!!!!
Shutting down coal resonated in Pittsburg, did not resonate in Philly?
I think to some extent we saw two important things:
--The utter backfire of "Operation Chaos," which merely ended up pumping more money and resources into what eventually became Obama's "ground game" machine, while also giving him loads of media attention, and
--The failure of the McCain campaign to capitalize on the months and months and months between his capture of the nomination and the convention season. Where WAS the McCain campaign? What was it building all that time, if anything, on the ground?
Perhaps McCain would have lost in any case but... like this?
His campaign managers have a lot to answer for tomorrow.
Will PA suffer buyers’ remorse when Obama destroys the coal industry and electricity prices go through the roof? (Well, the MSM will blame Bush of course.) People who voted for Obama did so because of greed and monumental stupidity. We’ll have more Jim Jones preaching from Obama, more lies than you can throw a stick at. And Wm. Ayres, Rev. Wright, and other Marxist pals will certainly become fixtures at the WH. We’ll see public schools graduating illiterates en masse. Then society will be expected to hand them jobs they’re not qualified to perform. Just the tip of the iceberg, folks. We’ve just ushered in the Age of Lunacy.
OK ...
Did you see her dress? geesh
McCain got creamed in South Central to South Eastern. (Well, he won, but way underperformed Bush) York, Cumberland, Dauphin, Lancaster, Lebanon, Berks, Chester. Also the Lehigh Valley and NEPA.
South Central is becoming a cultural suburb of I-95. Philly and Baltimore aren’t far away.
Here’s 2004 for South Central - to southeast
Adams 32.6% 13,764 66.9% 28,247 0.5% 217 +15K
Berks 46.4% 76,309 53.0% 87,122 0.6% 1,056 +10K
Chester 47.5% 109,708 52.0% 120,036 0.5% 1,079 +10K
Cumberl 35.8% 37,928 63.8% 67,648 0.5% 506 +30K
Dauphin 45.6% 55,299 53.9% 65,296 0.5% 613 +10K
Lancast 33.6% 74,328 65.8% 145,591 0.6% 1,359 +71K
Lebanon 32.5% 18,109 66.6% 37,089 0.8% 467 +19K
York 35.5% 63,701 63.7% 114,270 0.7% 1,298 +51K
Bush got 216K more votes than Kerry in those 8 counties.
Here’s 2008 (to this point)
Adams Obama 17,475 40% McCain 26,134 59% +9K
Berks Obama 91,803 54% McCain 75,868 45% -16K
chester O 135,150 54% M 112,266 45% -23K
cumber O 45,355 43% M 59,693 56% +14K
dauphin O 69,352 54% M 57,964 45% -12K
lanc O 97,290 43% M 124,475 56% +27K
Lebanon O 22,004 40% M 32,325 59% +10K
york O 81,748 43% M 107,367 56% +26K
McCain got 35K more votes than Obama in those 8 counties.
That’s a loss of 181K votes from 2004.
We have to regroup and fight the next fight. By the way, I don't think that anyone on this board will flame you. Keep posting, we need to keep good FReepers around. The next four years are going to be tough.
You have nothing to be sorry about.
The sorry thing is now our nation that will embark on the dark, dreary road of communism and will be unfit for Christians and Jews to live in.
I am doing analysis this morning. The number of votes does not appear to have changed radically.
So much for the influx of new voters.
McCain simply got smaller numbers in RED areas than BUSH did. Obama got the defections.
2004 Kerry won PA by 120,000 votes
2008 Obama won PA by 600,000+ votes
Total votes cast was nearly the same.
My Westmoreland County did not disappoint.
And they are actually pretty typical of PA outside the major urban areas.
But Murtha? Too many people are still programmed to vote for any jackass with a “D” who brings home some bacon.
No sweat, HJ. I thank you for your optimistic posts through the election season which were great comfort and motivator to me.