CALL FOR ACTION:
Please, all Fellow FREEPERS, please consider doing the following to prevent this mess of questionable eligibility from ever happening again:
Call your State Senator, your State Representative and your Governor and ask them to provide simple legislation to give the Secretary of State the right, responsibility and obligation to confirm eligibility BEFORE ANYONE can go onto the ballot.
Personally, I think the best way to contact them is by phone during business hours, then a follow up by e-mail or mail to the person you talked to, then a follow-up a week or so later, but you can do what you think is best.
Practically, this would require all future candidates to fill out an application with supporting documentation, which could then be checked out by the Secretary of State’s office.
I don’t know about you, but THIS idea seems a better use of our governments time then providing yet another social program designed to ruin people by not having them be accountable to their families (a basic problem).
If there is an enterprising lawyer or legislator on Free Republic who would like to provide well written sample legislation which could be submitted as a suggestion across the country, it would provide a basis for continuity.
Hope there are many, many people across the country who are willing to do this now, and after the election.
Remember..... 2012 is coming!
Atleast this judge wasnt an asshole like that one in Philly.
I usually vote against judges locally. If they have not done something good that I remember at poll time it is no for them.
I’m willing to bet this judge is a Democrat and this is a partisan decision.
And he’s an idiot.
So at least this court has seen a valid BC. Case closed.
This seems to be the most detailed ruling. Bump
How about a link to the article, not to the chat forum on Berg’s site.
One MAJOR problem, the Constitution was created to define the form of government for the PEOPLE. Congress does not have standing to determine the eligibility of the President INDEPENDENT of the people. Since the 16th Amendment (if I remember corretly, don’t shoot me here) allowed for direct election of representatives the previous dynamic was forever altered and the people of the country possess the power of direct action upon the government. Further, the Fourteenth Amendment forever altered the Federal state dynamic so that the line of demarcation between state and federal was certainly blurred, if not altogether eradicated (although there is a shell of it upheld at a Federal court’s “discretion” through abstentions).
The reality is there CAN NOT BE A PROVISION OF THE CONSTITUTION THAT CAN NOT HAVE EFFECT. Therefore to suggest no on has standing to bring the action is bogus, no matter how much integrity the judge may have. And to suggest that an individual citizen does not have standing to determine if a “FOREIGN INVADER” is not trying to illegally usurp power through demagoguery and deceit is equally a bunch of trash...
IF he wins the situation changes.
But it is impossible to win a challenge if he was indeed born in the State of Hawaii.
Gosh and I thought those same Hawaiian officials said that the original document still remains under seal. If this document does not have the name of the doctor and the hospital on it, then its not worth the affidavit accompanying it.
Gosh and I thought those same Hawaiian officials said that the original document still remains under seal. If this document does not have the name of the doctor and the hospital on it, then its not worth the affidavit accompanying it.
Update folks. I just checked http://www.whatsyourevidence.com - a rather (!) anti-Berg site. They have not posted this reported decision, and have added a note that they have information that it may not be “real.”
Given that that site has every “reason” to post information that contradicts Berg’s case, and still is calling reports of this case into question, I consider that a rather big deal, so am posting that as an update here.
Now I don’t know what to believe - and recognize that i’ll get flamed for this - but this poster’s prior posts on ObamaCrimes sounded very believable.
In the interest of full disclosure, am posting this as FYI.
I don’t find this article on the Obama Crimes website and the link pulls us into the comments section where I still don’t see it.
Funny how, me living in Virginia and checking the Cerfitigate key word each day, I didn’t even know about this lawsuit until now.
Added this to the Certifigate Link Thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2114092/posts?page=185#185
This entire discussion is totally confused. It confuses several items. Confusion is the trademark of Obama attempt to take over the presidency.
COLB
Certification of Live Birth
Certificate of Live Birth
BC
Birth Certificate vault copy
All 5 of the above are very different and are totally confused by the Judge and by those discussing them. The Judge is wrong because he confuses everything as the same.
This entire discussion is worthless. It is total mess of ideas. It probably was placed here by Obama to confuse the public. He is doing a good job of confusing the public. But we only need one person with clear thinking to get SCOTUS to hopefully clearly think it through.
Obama should not be President because he is not eligible per the original framers of the Constitution.
See the Donofrio case. He has it clearly thought out.
What court was it and who was the judge or who were the judges? Was the COLB birth referred to as being “unquestionably” authentic the same document discussed so often here that is not the actual “long form” birth certificate (it is difficult to see how it could be) and if so, why is this sound reasoning? There is not only the issue of the COLB not being the actual birth certificate, there is also the question of its being altered which, under Virginia law (vide the Elgin case) creates a presumption of fraud.