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Voters, Church Leader Speak Out Against Dole's Godless Ad
Miami Herals | 10/31/08 | Lisa Zagaroli

Posted on 11/03/2008 5:34:47 AM PST by steve-b

U.S. Senate candidate Kay Hagan said she came to talk about issues, but it wasn't long after arriving at an early voting site in Charlotte that a few voters brought up what's become the focal point of the race -- the "godless" ad that Sen. Elizabeth Dole is running against her.

"What a nasty campaign this has turned into at the last moment," Doug Gubbins, a retired computer programmer from Charlotte, said to Hagan as she worked the voting line at Marion Diehl Recreation Center....

The backlash against Dole continued with a church leader sending the senator a sharply-worded letter.

"We are writing to deplore as strongly as possible your recent 30-second television advertisement," wrote the Rev. Sekinah Hamlin, president of the N.C. Council of Churches, a coalition of 15 Christian denominations that work on racial, gender and economic issues. One of the churches that support the council's work is First Presbyterian of Greensboro, where Hagan serves as a Sunday school teacher and elder.

"We cannot remain silent when you challenge the beliefs of faithful fellow Christians and suggest that a leader in one of the state's oldest and largest denominations doesn't believe in God," wrote Hamlin, an ordained Disciples of Christ minister.

Mixing religion with politics didn't sit well with some voters either.

"I'm glad you're out here because I did not appreciate that," Charlotte nurse Barbara Sherman said to Hagan about Dole's ad....


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: North Carolina
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1 posted on 11/03/2008 5:34:48 AM PST by steve-b
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Her (our) seat in NC is in danger.


2 posted on 11/03/2008 5:36:50 AM PST by tomymind
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To: steve-b
Mixing religion with politics didn't sit well with some voters either.

True, but mixing irreligion with politics sits well with even fewer voters in NC.

3 posted on 11/03/2008 5:38:32 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Nihil utile nisi quod honestum - Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: steve-b
What an very educational post!

What in the heck is it about?

4 posted on 11/03/2008 5:38:36 AM PST by basil (Support the 2nd Amendment--buy another gun today)
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To: steve-b

I’ve seen the add and it’s factual. Hagen did accept donations and appeared at a rally sponsored by that group. The add even stated that it’s not an attack on Hagens personal beliefs but you are known by the company you keep and Hagen has been keeping company with the wrong people.


5 posted on 11/03/2008 5:38:38 AM PST by saganite (Obama (Senator Government) is a political STD)
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To: steve-b

That ad must be hurting Hagan...


6 posted on 11/03/2008 5:41:32 AM PST by LRS (Just contracts; just laws; just a Constitution...)
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I’ve heard two versions of Hagan’s “meeting”: either that she did meet with a group of atheists, or that she met with a bunch of people, and there was ONE member present who was part of an atheist group.

If the former was the case, I’d sure like to know what the atheists expected out of Hagan if she won election. But if the latter was true, it may be that Hagan was just addressing a bunch of people.


7 posted on 11/03/2008 5:42:34 AM PST by Joann37
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To: tomymind
Guarantee: The leading “religious voices” are coming from Episcopalians, Lutherans, Presbyterians and Church of Christ ministers—the so-called “enlightened” people of God.
8 posted on 11/03/2008 5:43:07 AM PST by meandog (Hey Rush: Get it through your head, George W. Bush deserves the blame! Chuck Baldwin 2012!)
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To: steve-b

but but but ... the Rat beotch says she was a Sunday School teacher.


9 posted on 11/03/2008 5:43:32 AM PST by webschooner (May piss be upon the One)
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To: steve-b

I get so tired of weenie drama queens!

I wish Dole would now reply, “Not only do you hate God, you’re a spineless wimp who bawls like a calf. You aren’t fit to lead an old woman across a busy street, let alone represent your state in Congress!”

Oh well. I can dream.


10 posted on 11/03/2008 5:48:56 AM PST by Mr Rogers (It's Joe the Plumber vs. Bill the Bomber!)
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Hagan will lose because of her name and she’s not an attractive candidate (the very opposite of our Sarah).


11 posted on 11/03/2008 6:05:09 AM PST by crymeariver (Good news...in a way)
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To: saganite
The ad is NOT factual. The ad strongly insinuates that Dole's opponent is not a christian.

"There is no God!"

God has something to say about bearing false witness. "Christian" freepers might get nasty, but most Christians don't like that kind of crap.

12 posted on 11/03/2008 6:07:16 AM PST by Texas_shutterbug
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To: Mr Rogers

The struck dog howls...keep punching Ms. Dole you are over the target.


13 posted on 11/03/2008 6:07:39 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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Rev. Sekinah Hamlin, president of the N.C. Council of Churches

Tinging cymbal?

14 posted on 11/03/2008 6:08:05 AM PST by sausageseller (http://coolblue.typepad.com/the_cool_blue_blog/)
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First Presbyterian of Greensboro, where Hagan serves as a Sunday school teacher and elder.

Hagan is a " false witness"!

15 posted on 11/03/2008 6:10:31 AM PST by sausageseller (http://coolblue.typepad.com/the_cool_blue_blog/)
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My guess is the ad must be factual. There is not much "Christian" about the NCC.

• African Methodist Episcopal Church
• The African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church
• Alliance of Baptists
• American Baptist Churches in the USA
• Diocese of the Armenian Church of America
• Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)
• Christian Methodist Episcopal Church
• Church of the Brethren
• The Coptic Orthodox Church in North America
• The Episcopal Church
• Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
• Friends United Meeting
• Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America
• Hungarian Reformed Church in America
• International Council of Community Churches
• Korean Presbyterian Church in America
• Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church
• Mar Thoma Church
• Moravian Church in America Northern Province and Southern Province
• National Baptist Convention of America
• National Baptist Convention, U.S.A., Inc.
• National Missionary Baptist Convention of America
• Orthodox Church in America
• Patriarchal Parishes of the Russian Orthodox Church in the USA
• Philadelphia Yearly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends
• Polish National Catholic Church of America
• Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)
• Progressive National Baptist Convention, Inc.
• Reformed Church in America
• Serbian Orthodox Church in the U.S.A. and Canada
• The Swedenborgian Church
• Syrian Orthodox Church of Antioch
• Ukrainian Orthodox Church of America
• United Church of Christ
• The United Methodist Church •

16 posted on 11/03/2008 6:13:46 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Texas_shutterbug

I disagree and I think the ad is very effective. Guess we’ll see just how effective tomorrow night.


17 posted on 11/03/2008 6:14:21 AM PST by saganite (Obama (Senator Government) is a political STD)
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To: steve-b

I think this would be more advantageous for Dole if she could point to the North Carolina church that she attends on a regular basis. Of course that would require her to actually be in the state.


18 posted on 11/03/2008 6:14:48 AM PST by NC28203
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To: meandog
Guarantee: The leading “religious voices” are coming from Episcopalians, Lutherans, Presbyterians and Church of Christ ministers—the so-called “enlightened” people of God.

WHOAAAA! Church of Christ congregations are VERY conservative evangelical believers. You're talking about the UNITED Church of Christ. VERY DIFFERENT.

19 posted on 11/03/2008 6:32:56 AM PST by AUTiger83 (Alabamian by birth, Auburn alum by the grace of God . . .)
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To: Texas_shutterbug
"Christian" freepers might get nasty, but most Christians don't like that kind of crap.

Nice language.

20 posted on 11/03/2008 6:43:08 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the Lord-(Jer.22:29))
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