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Kennedy: The yolk's on Aggie student group after 'Anti-Obama Carnival’
Fort Worth Star-Telegram ^ | November 2, 2008 | Bud Kennedy

Posted on 11/02/2008 7:16:18 PM PST by fgoodwin

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To: FreeRadical
That means a lot, coming from a Red Raider. Thanks!
41 posted on 11/02/2008 10:32:40 PM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (ACORN is a criminal enterprise)
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To: garbanzo

Nonsense.

If you read the article, you surely noted that even the Young Republicans were embarrassed by this group’s repeated stunts.

FWIW, I have strong ties to A&M, love the school, and am most impressed with the quality of its students.

Being rude simply doesn’t win votes. I haven’t been brainwashed, just taught good manners. Didn’t your mother teach you about flies, honey, and vinegar? If not, perhaps she should have.


42 posted on 11/02/2008 10:39:12 PM PST by Jedidah
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To: NELSON111

> We need an edit button!

(grin!) Think thrice, preview twice, post once...


43 posted on 11/02/2008 11:30:13 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: fgoodwin

They can have their free speech. The complaints are ones of taste, and I personally wholeheartedly concur. This kind of stunt is very childish, it plays into “personality cults”, and frankly it doesn’t do the conservative image very much good at all.

Throwing eggs at a picture of the “one” may be emotionally very satisfying, but I doubt its going to change many people’s voting habits - and that is much more important.


44 posted on 11/03/2008 12:16:17 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: Jedidah
If you read the article, you surely noted that even the Young Republicans were embarrassed by this group’s repeated stunts.

And that's why the Young Republicans are the least effective collegiate organization known to man. In my experience, the Campus Republicans/Young Republicans are always apologizing for this and embarrassed by that - always playing Stepin' Fetchit to the campus left.

I haven’t been brainwashed, just taught good manners.

And your "manners" will be the death of the conservative movement. Look what President Bush's "manners" did for him. Look where John McCain's "manners" have put him. Understand that the militant left is using your virtues against you because they know that they can. They know that you'll play by the Marquis of Queensbury rules while they use the no-holds barred cage fighting rules. They know that symbols matter and that if they can restrain you while they can do what they want they will eventually win the ideological battle. They know that if they can make Obama a sacrosanct figure while Bush and McCain become targets of mockery that over the long term they can delegitimize them more effectively than your unread anti-Obama pamphlets can delegitimize Obama.

45 posted on 11/03/2008 12:23:34 AM PST by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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To: Vanders9
Throwing eggs at a picture of the “one” may be emotionally very satisfying, but I doubt its going to change many people’s voting habits

Understand something about the militant left - nothing is about reason with them. You will never win an argument with them. It's all about feelings and their internal emotional states not about any sense of reality. It's why every totalitarian state is concerned to the point of obsession about iconography - it's a means of conditioning you to accept tyranny as a fundamental truth. It's why desecrating the icons of the totalitarian state is seen as the supreme crime - it breaks the spell and makes totalitarian government impossible.

46 posted on 11/03/2008 12:31:44 AM PST by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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To: fgoodwin
Heh, heh.

The event also included a ring toss where Halloween masks of Obama and Hillary Clinton were posted on sticks as the target. It was called "Socialist on a Stick."

47 posted on 11/03/2008 12:58:28 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: garbanzo

“And your “manners” will be the death of the conservative movement.”

I disagree strongly. “Manners” will be the saving of the movement, not its death. The good book says “be as wise as serpents”, not actually BE a serpent. If the conservative movement stoops to the level of the opposition, if it uses the same tactics, the same levels of ridicule, manipulation and spite, then ultimately it will become the opposition. What is the point of saving us from these people, if we have to become like them to do it?

I understand that the militant left uses our own virtues against us, but that is the reason (and actually the main reason) why I am against them. It’s also the reason that most “moderates” and “undecideds” will be against them too. The pollsters ask the wrong questons, and the mass media treat the masses with utter comtempt, but people are more astute than they think. They take note not only of the message but the way the message is delivered.

Militant left people are really repulsive. I don’t mean their policies, I mean them personally. And people (voters) register that. Do not be fooled. How we think and the way we transpose that into action matters more even than winning or losing an election. Those who use lies and hate and subterfuge will eventually become sneaky, hate-filled liars.


48 posted on 11/03/2008 3:27:18 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: garbanzo

Oh I’m not concerned about the militant left. Nothing changes their minds, they’ve reached the point where the hate is so ingrained it blocks anything else from getting in.

I’m more concerned with persuading Joe Average on the streets. Stunts like this might rally the already convinced, but they are not going to reach out to anyone else.


49 posted on 11/03/2008 3:31:23 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: ExTexasRedhead

TAMU is a very conservative campus and probably has more people in the military than any other college. GIG’EM!!


50 posted on 11/03/2008 4:14:03 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Don't worry about the polls - GO VOTE!)
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To: fgoodwin

Wasn’t there an Egg thrown at Bush’s motorcade back in 2001? I think Michael Moore had it in his movie or something, and praised the thrower!


51 posted on 11/03/2008 4:15:09 AM PST by RatsDawg (John McCain fought Communism in Vietnam, and now he is fighting Communist in America.)
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To: Pajamajan

Bingo!


52 posted on 11/03/2008 4:48:57 AM PST by stevie_d_64
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To: El Gato
I don't recommend trying that in Aggiland. At least anywhere near the Corps of Cadets.

Actually, I highly recommend that Bill Ayers go do his "free speech" thing right in front of the A&M Corps of Cadets. [grin]

53 posted on 11/03/2008 4:54:50 AM PST by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: fgoodwin

Re: A surly student crowd saw them smearing Obama’s photo Wednesday with dozens of spattered eggs and surrounded the Rudder Plaza “carnival”

So?

Hit THEM with eggs.


54 posted on 11/03/2008 5:10:51 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Obama is not qualified for the FBI, but he is qualified for the Presidency????)
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To: Vanders9; garbanzo; NFHale; Jedidah
The good book says “be as wise as serpents”, not actually BE a serpent.

Actually, theres also something about CRUSHING the serpents head while 'bruising' our heel...

we must realize that this is the final push [by the homegrown commies] in a very calculated WAR against America and her FReedom...

the gloves must come off at all levels or we will lose to the demons of the left...PC is the serpents subtile weapon...

55 posted on 11/03/2008 5:39:11 AM PST by Gilbo_3 ("JesusChrist 08"...Trust in the Lord......=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: Gilbo_3

“Actually, theres also something about CRUSHING the serpents head while ‘bruising’ our heel...”

That just means the fight will be hard and that there will be casualties or damage inflicted on our side. It is no quote on tactics.

“The gloves must come off at all levels or we will lose to the demons of the left”

I dont want to beat the demons of the left only to fall to the “demons of the right” What enemy are we fighting? What is it in communism that is so ugly? To me, it is its certainty, its godless humanism, its assertion that Man by his own efforts can make all things well. It is its aversion of personal responsibility and its subordination of the individual to a collective whole that sucks out all creativity and difference, that makes the vibrant color of Humanity and melds it into a dull shapeless gray. Communism is not the only political system that can do that.

“PC is the serpents subtile weapon...”

Rather unsubtle one actually, but in any case, this is not a point about PC. This is about light and dark, right and wrong.


56 posted on 11/03/2008 7:09:22 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: RatsDawg

“Wasn’t there an Egg thrown at Bush’s motorcade back in 2001? I think Michael Moore had it in his movie or something, and praised the thrower!”

That’s different, and well you know it. Throwing eggs at effigies of Obama is uncivilised, uncouth behaviour. Throwing them actually at the president himself is perfectly alright because it is a creative expression of “youf” and symbolises its rejection of war, wealth and greedy multinationals. Besides Bush is the epitome of all evil and thoroughly deserves it.

Remember that “good” and “bad” behaviour are only relative and exist only in context. Please try to keep up.

Do I really need a /sarc tag?


57 posted on 11/03/2008 7:15:18 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: NELSON111
Law was a "character builder"... I was a resident for 6 semesters (Aug '84 thru May '87): no air conditioning [but we had one fan blowing out the window and one blowing in) and in certain months of the year, due to the humidity we'd have black mold growing on the walls of the ramp... no one got sick; no one sued for pain and suffering - that which didn't kill us made us stronger ;-)

Both Law and Puryear were torn down about 7 years ago... there's some new, giant interdiscipline building on the site overlooking the Drill Field.

I'm heading down to College Station this weekend to attend the Aggie vs 0U game... my prediction: TAMU 32; 0U 30.

I cannot wait to get my dose of Freebirds, Dixie Chicken/Dudley's/Logans, Chicken Oil, Double-Daves, tailgating, etc. (I go to one game per year in order to keep it "real").

58 posted on 11/03/2008 7:30:12 AM PST by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: Trajan88
I'm heading down to College Station this weekend to attend the Aggie vs 0U game... my prediction: TAMU 32; 0U 30.

Not a chance in hades..........

Wanna bet $100?

59 posted on 11/03/2008 7:31:52 AM PST by Osage Orange (Obama's heart is blacker than the devil's riding boots...............)
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To: Vanders9
I dont want to beat the demons of the left only to fall to the “demons of the right”

to in any way equate the commie/islamo left, which has only one goal, to convert or kill you...to the 'demons on the right', whose goal is GOD, family and freedom is remarkable...

The godless masses that are truly dangerous are the left, theyre like terminators and will not stop until they are literally crushed...not by words or laws, but literally crushed...

there are extremes to 'the right' as well, but most are not likely to bother you if you dont bother them...live and let live, vs convert or die...BIG difference...

This is about light and dark, right and wrong... It is no quote on tactics...

Oh but it is precisely about tactics...Light and Right werent stated to 'talk to' evil and redirect it to a different part of the garden...it was stated that it will be CRUSHED...period...not without effort and wounding, but crushed nonetheless...

my .02

60 posted on 11/03/2008 7:34:07 AM PST by Gilbo_3 ("JesusChrist 08"...Trust in the Lord......=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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