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Down to the Wire, Va. Still Too Close to Call, Poll Shows (Looks Good for McCain)
The Virginian-Pilot ^ | November 2, 2008 | Dale Eisman

Posted on 11/02/2008 7:18:33 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Down to the wire, Va. still too close to call, poll shows

The survey of 625 likely voters in Virginia found 47 percent supported Obama, 44 percent preferred McCain and 9 percent were undecided. The margin of error is plus or minus 4 percentage points.

Swing state

Should Virginia vote Democratic, Barack Obama probably will win the White House. But should McCain hold the state, the result could portend a McCain comeback nationally.

The earliest signs of who will be the next president might spring from Virginia and how undecided white voters such as John Morris and Sidney Blankenbeckler cast their ballots.

"I'm pretty disappointed in Republicans right now, and I don't think John McCain is offering a lot that's new," said Morris, a retired Navy captain who lives in Chesterfield County, a prosperous Richmond suburb. "But frankly, I'm scared of Obama and some of the things he's been talking about."

Three hundred miles west, in tiny Sugar Grove, a farming and manufacturing community deep in the Appalachians, Blankenbeckler worries that a McCain victory would mean "four more years of kind of dragging along" but that Obama might be "borderline Socialist." Blankenbeckler said he is trying to decide "which is least worst."

Virginia will be among the first states to report results Tuesday night, and should it vote Democratic for the first time in a presidential race since 1964 - as many polls suggest - Barack Obama probably will win the White House. But should McCain hold the state, the result could portend a McCain comeback nationally.

A new poll commissioned by The Virginian-Pilot concludes the state remains up for grabs. The survey of 625 likely voters found 47 percent supported Obama, 44 percent preferred McCain and a crucial 9 percent were undecided. Because the poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points, the race is technically a dead heat.

The telephone survey was conducted by Mason-Dixon Polling & Research Inc. on Wednesday and Thursday.

J. Bradford Coker, who oversaw the survey, said the ultimate outcome in Virginia and elsewhere might hinge on whether undecided white voters are willing to vote for Obama, who would be the nation's first African American president.

The Mason-Dixon poll shows that 11 percent of whites are undecided - far more than usual in the closing week of a statewide election, Coker said. The last time the figure was nearly as high was 1989 in Virginia, when Democrat Doug Wilder was elected the nation's first black governor.

Like Obama, Wilder had a small but clear lead in late polls. But on election night, in a phenomenon that came to be known in Virginia as "the Wilder effect," an unexpectedly large Republican vote in predominately white precincts brought GOP nominee Marshall Coleman within a whisker - four-tenths of 1 percentage point - of victory.

Coker said "almost all" of the undecided white voters broke for Coleman on Election Day; a similar break this year could deliver Virginia's 13 electoral votes to McCain.

The same phenomenon occurred in North Carolina's 1990 U.S. Senate race. Democrat Harvey Gantt, an African American, led by 4 percentage points in the final poll only to lose by 6 points on Election Day to Republican Jesse Helms.

"The million-dollar question is whether there will be a Wilder/Gantt effect in the 2008 presidential race," Coker said. "No matter what anyone theorizes, the answer today is that no one knows for sure."

In addition to Virginia, Coker said, the effect could tilt the scales to McCain in the battleground states of Colorado, Florida, Missouri, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

Larry Sabato, a University of Virginia political scientist, said he normally expects about a 2 percent dip in white support for a black candidate on Election Day - not enough, he predicted, to tilt victory to McCain nationally or in Virginia.

And Obama's campaign might have insulated its candidate against any drop-off in white support, Sabato said, by registering millions of new voters in minority communities and college towns across the nation where the Democratic nominee appears especially popular.

Obama's strategists dispute the notion of a gap between the Illinois senator's white support in polls and in actual voting. Surveys accurately predicted the votes Obama received in most of the presidential primary elections earlier this year, they note, and Obama split the white vote evenly with Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton in Virginia's Democratic primary.

Other analysts note that Virginia's electorate today is a considerably different from 1989, largely because of explosive growth in the Washington, D.C., suburbs and an influx of immigrants.

Bob Holsworth, a political scientist at Virginia Commonwealth University in Richmond, said he expects that highly motivated black voters and mostly Latino immigrants unhappy with GOP calls for tighter immigration laws will produce a 65,000-vote margin for Obama in Northern Virginia, more than double the advantage that Democrat John Kerry enjoyed there in 2004.

Holsworth said Obama also might benefit from having taken time to "become a familiar face" to Virginians. While other Democratic presidential candidates have tended to give up early on Virginia, Obama has shown up early and often - going to party functions and stumping for Virginia Democrats such as Gov. Timothy M. Kaine and Sen. Jim Webb before he was running himself.

Whatever the impact of race, Obama clearly is benefiting from President Bush's unpopularity in Virginia and around the nation. McCain has been cast as an heir to Bush "and he gets tarred with that brush," said U.S. Rep. Tom Davis, a Fairfax County Republican who is giving up his congressional seat and worries that it, too, will slip into Democratic hands.

Obama approaches Election Day with an overwhelming money advantage over McCain, stemming from his decision to for go federal financing of his campaign and raise cash on his own. As a result, Obama has opened 50 campaign offices around Virginia and has outspent McCain on broadcast advertising by more than 3-to-1.

The Mason-Dixon poll shows Obama with a 61 percent to 31 percent lead in populous Northern Virginia and a 50 percent to 40 percent lead in Hampton Roads. McCain is ahead in all other regions.

Among whites, McCain holds a 53 percent to 36 percent lead. Among blacks, Obama has a 92 percent to 5 percent advantage.

Each campaign boasts an army of more than 10,000 volunteers to lead what it predicts will be an unprecedented get-out-the-vote effort on Tuesday.

"I've never seen anything like this," said Del. Kenneth Melvin, D-Portsmouth, who supports Obama. "It's incredible. There's electricity in the air."

Morton Blackwell, one of the state's two representatives on the Republican National Committee, said, "I can tell you that many conservative interest groups out there are not sitting on their hands in this election."

Blackwell identified organizations that are pro-gun rights, anti-abortion and anti-union and added that if it were not for the selection of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as McCain's running mate, "a lot of these conservative interest groups would not be involved."


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: mccain; swingstates; tossups; undecideds; va2008; virginia
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To: McCainPalin_08

That is WONDERFUL news! That could make a huge difference!

P.S. I saw a young woman in Northern VA wearing a Palin Power t-shirt yesterday!


21 posted on 11/02/2008 7:38:48 AM PST by EdnaMode
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22 posted on 11/02/2008 7:38:52 AM PST by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: EdnaMode; Admin Moderator; administrator
Some how the link did not show in the posting of the article. Someone put it in please.

LINK to the article.

23 posted on 11/02/2008 7:40:29 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: McCainPalin_08

I live in Northern VA, and my best friend’s father is from Israel and they are all voting for McCain. In fact, her mom refused to tell a pollster who she was voting for when she was called!


24 posted on 11/02/2008 7:41:41 AM PST by EdnaMode
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To: McCainPalin_08

Sounds like the media is doing CYA with this article.

Virginians: VOTE. Get out the VOTE!!!


25 posted on 11/02/2008 7:42:27 AM PST by TMA62 (TMA62)
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To: TMA62

Pa. is not Obama’s to take either.It is not blue.


26 posted on 11/02/2008 7:49:04 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: McCainPalin_08

Sabato is an Obamaturd.


27 posted on 11/02/2008 7:51:00 AM PST by babylucas (Defeat Hussein! (I thought we already did))
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To: McCainPalin_08

Definitely very good good news. I know I shouldn`t pay attention to polling but VA was the darkest threat, what with it being +8 for zero the last few weeks. Can`t be good for 0nazi that it`s closing like this right at the perfect time.


28 posted on 11/02/2008 7:51:15 AM PST by toddausauras
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To: EdnaMode
How do I call an admin to put the link in my article?

It oddly did not show up in the original post.

LINK to article

29 posted on 11/02/2008 7:51:21 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: McCainPalin_08

Instead of a Wilder effect, I’m hoping for a Brady effect. Gun grabber Obama gets shown the door.


30 posted on 11/02/2008 7:53:02 AM PST by Darren McCarty (I'm voting for anybody but Obama)
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To: McCainPalin_08
How anyone can be undecided at this point in the proceedings indicates to me that they're willfully naive, totally out of it, or just plain dumb as a fencepost!
31 posted on 11/02/2008 7:53:36 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Rummyfan
How anyone can be undecided at this point in the proceedings indicates to me that they're willfully naive, totally out of it, or just plain dumb as a fencepost!

Or afraid to be called a racist.

32 posted on 11/02/2008 7:56:42 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: McCainPalin_08

I’m overseas and sent in my ballot three weeks ago. I had it witnessed by a coworker per the directions. There was no requirement for said witness to provide anything other than a signature. Now I’m hearing that absentee ballots may be tossed if there is no address provided by the witness. Meanwhile homeless can vote in Ohio using a park bench as an address of record. It makes my blood boil!!!!!!


33 posted on 11/02/2008 7:56:49 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Rummyfan
Most people undecided at this point don't like either candidate and are trying to decide who is the lesser of two evils, or if it is worth showing up.

My tagline says it all with me. I'm also voting for Palin and that old guy she's running with.

34 posted on 11/02/2008 7:56:54 AM PST by Darren McCarty (I'm voting for anybody but Obama)
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To: EdnaMode

35 posted on 11/02/2008 7:58:45 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Rummyfan
Virginia's attorney general stepped in Monday and said all the ballots must be counted under federal law, which trumps the state law. Federal law does not require the address of a witness to be included.

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36 posted on 11/02/2008 8:00:55 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: McCainPalin_08
MSM has been trumpeting that zerO leads with military. Why would they not count their own votes? /s
37 posted on 11/02/2008 8:03:38 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: AHerald

I do not buy that there are so many undecided voters out there. One would have to be close to brain dead not to be able to make up his mind by now. I think many people just don’t want to tell others how they plan to vote. After all, that is why we have secret ballot voting. It’s none of anyone else’s business.

I will be so glad when this election is over. It’s just too bad that the “babblers” will start talking about the next election as soon as this one is finished. One would think politics is the only thing that keeps life going on the planet. Ugh.


39 posted on 11/02/2008 8:07:03 AM PST by Pining_4_TX
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To: McCainPalin_08

I am checking in from Lynchburg, VA. For every one 0bama sign I see about ten for McCain.

Also, Liberty University just registered 4,200 new voters. Almost all will vote for McCain.


40 posted on 11/02/2008 8:08:31 AM PST by conservativeinferno (My SUV is the urban squirrel's worst predator.)
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