Hawaiian Officials Admit Withholding Obama's Original Birth Certificate

Israel Insider ^ | November 1, 2008

[Fennie]

Now it's pretty apparent why Barack Obama made his sudden, last minute visit to Honolulu. It wasn't Granny's health problems that interested him but Hawaii's Health Department.

The strategy may have backfired. A statement by Hawaiian officials Friday that they have seen but won't release an "original" bith certificate that has never been released raises more questions than it answers. It undercuts the indignant claims of Obama's spokesmen and supporters that the "birth certificate" has been published for months, and the ridicule and claims of "smear" that the Obama camp has made against anyone claiming otherwise.

[Calpernia]

>>>What it must mean is that

1) Obama is confirmed American (else Haiwaii would have knowingly thrown the election),

Your 'else' is speculative. Hawaii has issued COLB to foreign borns upon them registering their birth certificates.

but 2) Barack Senior was probably not Barry’s father (else the original birth certificate wouldn’t be an embarrassment).

If would be more than an embarrassment. It would mean he had a name change. If it was a legal name change, there would be an alias recorded on his bar application. He, however, selected 'no aliases'.

[Calpernia]

If Obama’s father is anyone other than Obama Senior; then there is an issue of legal name changes. His application to the bar has no aliases selected. That would mean no legal paper trail of aliases.

If his name is anything other than Barack Hussein Obama, he better be praying he has a paper trail to show that. Otherwise, he will have more legal problems.

[ElkGroveDan]

Martin, who has advanced the theory that the candidate has suppressed the original certificate because it would show that his father is not in fact Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., claims that Frank Marshall Davis -- a high profile Communist and journalist that Obama II referred to in his memoirs only as "Frank" -- is in fact Obama's father.

hmmmmm....

[4woodenboats]

Whenever the idea that Obama couldn’t get a low level security clearance comes up, remember that not providing birth records or college transcripts would result in an immediate denial; the background investigation wouldn’t even get into the issue of his upbringing and Kenyan connections.

Whoops! You forgot to use notion! Nobody uses idea since that hip, non threatening new cat from the ghetto started the notion motion!

Idea was just too harsh - it sounds like something you might hear at work, which'd turn off Obama's peeps.

Same with that worn out old phrase earning a paycheck, how often do you hear that on the news or that 24/7 Obama channel.

The new phrases are getting a stimulus package and I'm gonna give you a thousand dollars.

Gotta sell the sizzle!

[NOBAMA in 08]

Maybe now We can stop pussy footing around as the Truth perculates out!

WE DONT EVEN KNOW OBAMA HUSSEIN’S BIRTH NAME, OR WHERE AND WHEN HE WAS BORN!!!
WE KNOW NOW OBAMA HUSSEIN LIED ABOUT HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE!
OBAMA HUSSEIN HAS LIED TO AMERICA ABOUT HIS MOST BASIC FACTS OF LIFE!!!
CAN AMERICA BELIEVE ONE DAMN WORD OBAMA HUSSEIN, A PROVEN LIAR, CON ARTIST AND SNAKEOIL SALESMAN, UTTERS IN HIS GLIB TONGUE?
FINALLY, THE STATE OF HAWAI’I HAS PUT HIS ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE UNDER LOCK AND KEY PROTECTION TO PROTECT AGAINST OBAMA’S FRAUD AND DECEIT!
OBAMA HUSSEIN ISNT FIT TO BE A NEW YORK CITY TAXICAB DRIVER!

[holden]

there would be an alias recorded on his bar application. He, however, selected 'no aliases'

...which is probably why Barry Soetero let his law license granted under an non-registered alias lapse.

That doesn't change his multiple misrepresentations and document frauds, however. Those are on his law license, the KOS COLB, or the missing paperwork for name changes, documentation for his non-existent conversion to Christianity, and the missing paperwork for an adopted Indonesian who, at the age of majority, could have (in the past) reclaimed a US citizenship status changed by an ostensibly benevolent Muslim step-father.

Cheney will be properly prepared if 0bambi will have ostensibly won the election.

HF

[jackv]

“I think Obama’s whole run for the presidency is a plot that stretches around the globe, perpetuated by a network of Marxist radicals.”

You are not alone. Check out this article in the American Thinker:

Barack Obama: Red Diaper Baby

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/barack_obama_red_diaper_baby_1.html

[etraveler13]

BREAKING NEWS!!!!!

(HONOLULU)(November 1, 2008) Internet powerhouse Andy Martin has ignited a firestorm in Hawai’i over Barack Obama’s bogus “original” birth certificate. Martin won a stunning victory Friday afternoon (October 31st) when the State of Hawai’i backed his assertion that there was an original, “typewritten, 1961” birth certificate, called a “Certificate of Live Birth” or “COLB” in Hawai’i, that no one has previously seen. Hawai’i officials retrieved and examined the document after Martin filed a lawsuit seeking access to the historic 1961 original.

Obama has falsely claimed to have placed the “original” on the Internet. Factcheck.org has falsely claimed to have seen this document and posted it on the Internet; that is not true. CNN has falsely ridiculed Martin.

Hawai’i officials have now refuted Obama’s false assertion.

[NOBAMA in 08]

TOM BROKAW!!

DO YOU THINK YOU HAVE SABOTAGED AMERICA NOW AND BEEN A TRAITOR TO THE COUNTRY YOU ALLEGE TO LOVE AND THAT HAS GIVEN SO RICHLY TO YOU?

Question to Brokaw: What do you know about Obama?

Brokaw to Interviewer: “I dont know anything about him.”(sic)

[hoosiermama]

for what she was - promiscuous.

Apparently Davis AKA Pops wrote a poem: "Threesome With A Girl Named Anne". Ann was only 17 at the time she was impregnated/ Her father was a friend of Davis....BO Sr divorced her shortly after Jr was born. No wonder he has nothing to do with his African family......They aren't biological family.

[gnarledmaw]

" The democrats would jump at the chance to install a foreign president and set a precedent for doing so."

I seem to remember an awful lot of cinos pushing for the same thing around here when they thought The Governator was going to be their Republican saviour.

[Sir Gawain]

Father: Frank Marshall Davis

[Disturbin]

The left have been demanding the release of Governor Palin’s health records, yet Obama has yet to release a laundry list of documents.

[omega4179]

Would proof (which you need to work anywhere) require a constitutional amendment or just authorize the FEC to check all nominees for full lawful natural born citizenship.

[Lumper20]

Obama could not get a Confidential “FOUO” clearance in my opinion, and; I was S2 of a TSN unit in 69.

[Lumper20]

That is what I read. Same Same. Looks like Hawaii allows foreign born to obtain COLB’s? Am I wrong?

Is it a mere coincidence that the Obama plane with him aboard arrived on Friday the 24th of October to visit his ailing granny?

[itsahoot]

I’m still waiting for clinton’s health records .

Not to mention Kerry's Military records that he promised he would release. Traitors, the whole lot.

[Godsgirl]

AMEN!

[Lumper20]

How do you know McCain so well you call him a RINO? Have you ever been a POW for 5 years? Have you ever served in war?

Be careful who you label. Not ever Republican holds the hard right’s views. We need every damn vote we can get right now to defeat a marxist, US hating SOB, and; you pass out a label. I am not impressed with the so called true conservatives, as most of them never serve this nation in war. Open your tent up as all of us who love this nation more then our life do not have to embrace every concern you have or I have.

In my short 61 plus years, I have yet to see a perfect person. I have yet to see a person who does not make mistakes.

[Iowan]

Here is the other theory, as posted in an earlier Freerepublic thread:ATLAS SHRUGS HAS EMAIL EVIDENCE, STANLEY ANN DUNHAM NOT IN HAWAII WHEN OBAMA BORN?
Atlas Shrugs ^ | October 27, 2008 | Pamela Geller
Link to article that is stated in the thread:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/10/how-could-stanl.html

Obama Wars: Barack, who is your father?
Thursday, October 30, 2008 11:42:51 AM · 35 of 71
Grampa Dave to LucyT; SE Mom; potlatch; pissant; PhilDragoo; Calpernia; Iowan; Kevmo; Fred Nerks; Lady Jag; ...
The question regarding Obama’s father got started with the posting of this thread titled ATLAS SHRUGS HAS EMAIL EVIDENCE, STANLEY ANN DUNHAM NOT IN HAWAII WHEN OBAMA BORN? There is a link to the full article by the writer/ researcher right under the title.
You need to read the full article to find out what was going on in Seattle, Washington when Ann Dunham was a senior in high school, age-17, to see the possible connection.

Malcolm X was in Seattle,Washington during that time period.

Quote—”SO WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN SEATTLE THE SUMMER ANN DUNHAM GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL? 1960: Though Seattle’s black population had been historically small, the city had been no stranger to racial problems.

Many of Seattle’s blacks fought back in one form or another, some by participating in civil rights and self defense organizations including the NAACP, the National Urban League, the Universal Negro Improvement Association, the Congress of Racial Equality, and the National Negro Congress, the Nation of Islam, the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee, and the Black Panther Party.

Malcolm X utilized newspaper columns, as well as radio and television to communicate the NOI’s message across the United States including Seattle.

He proved to be a brilliant, powerful orator who attracted huge crowds on the university lecture circuit. His charisma, drive and conviction attracted an astounding number of new members. Malcolm was largely credited with increasing membership in the NOI from 500 in 1952 to 30,000 in 1963.

1960: Stanley Ann Dunham graduates high school and Malcolm X forms the Nation of Islam Temple No.67 - Seattle, Wash. - 5943 Empire Wa”

In the article, there is am embedded video link of Malcolm X. The writer makes this statement regarding the video: “The physical mannerisms and speech cadence and tonal quality of Malcolm X have an uncanny resemblance to Barack Hussein Obama Jr. Check it out.”

That is where the discussion has evolved from. With Obama;s recent trip to Hawaii, one wonders just what Obama is hiding. His response to the Berg lawsuit stated there was potentially embarrassing info on his BC...

If you watch the embedded video and links to the others, you will see our interest.

You need to go to that thread and see post #35

290 posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 5:52:20 AM by Iowan

Also, ATLAS SHRUGS HAS EMAIL EVIDENCE, STANLEY ANN DUNHAM NOT IN HAWAII WHEN OBAMA BORN?
Wednesday, October 29, 2008 5:06:11 PM · 328 of 390
Iowan to Fishrrman
Ann Dunham graduated from Mercer High School in Washington in 1960. There is a Senior photo of her from the Mercer Yearbook....sweater and pearls. (The parents saying she moved there in 1959 was misinformation.) In this thread, there are classmates of hers that talk about Ann being one of their high school classmates, and that she had been accepted at both Univ of Washington and Univ. of Chicago for Fall of 1960. She didn’t move to Hawaii until AFTER her 1960 High school graduation....the actual date is sketchy. But, she did not move in 1959..she would have only been a Junior in High School.

She PROBABLY was pregnant before she left Washington. You might then state, BUT, that doesn’t correlate with Barack’s Sug. 4th 1961 birth date. WELL....how do we REALLY know he was born in Aug. of 1961. He could have been born several months earlier...May or June 1961. The Aug. 4th 1961 date is the one that Barack has given out.

The online birth certifcation of live birth at his Stop the Smears site is FAKE...That is NOT an original long form vault certified birth certificate but a certification that a live birth occurred. When, where and who is the father are really unknown. How convenient.

Shortly after Ann gave birth to Barack, she heads off with the baby BACK to Seattle,...over 2680 miles away and signed up for Extension courses at Univ. of Washington.

She was enrolled at Univ of Washington Autumn/Fall 1961, Winter 1962, Spring 1962. We have to assume that all of the dates, places, etc that Obama has given us have been misleading. He is trying to keep us from finding the truth.

Ann first stays with a friend of her mother, then she has an apartment on Capitol Hill. (We need to see if we can find a telephone directory for 1960, 1961, 1962 for Ann Dunham for Seattle!!!!!!!!!)

Malcolm X in 1960 was in the Seattle, Washington area. (He had been there in 1959/1960 timeframe as he was a sought after college speaker. He forms the Nationa of Islam Temple No. 67 at 5943 Empire Way. He was a very popular speaker at the time and Ann must have been mesmerized and attended his talks.(Pamela Gellar at Atlas Shrugs stated that in her article listed above, but we need to have someone contact her via her blog to fin out what her source was that Malcolm X did indeed start that Nation of Islam Temple No. 67 in Seattle at 5943 Empire Way S. When you do a google, it will bring up Martin Luther King as the name of the highway. This is the correct highway, as Empire Way South was RENAMED Martin Luther King.)

Ann did not go back to Hawaii until Spring of 1963...Obama St left Hawaii in 1962. Ann didn’t return to Hawaii until AFTER Obama left the Island. Ann was in Seattle area the whole time of 1961 until she went back to Hawaii in 1963, and ressumed her career at Univ of Hawaii in Spring of 1963.

There are therefore common time frames, common locations, common radical thinking that could have linked Ann Dunham and Malcolm X together during 1960...

The resemblances between Malcolm X and Obama are more similar than of Frank Marshall Davis. Ann was not in Hawaii when she was 13 or 14 to have a relationship with Frank Marshall Davis. Ann was in Seattle, Washington attending High School. Those might have been photos of her AFTER she returned back to Hawaii, when she was 19/20??

You will find the posts and links regarding all the above if you go through all the posts on this thread.