Posted on 10/31/2008 7:40:48 PM PDT by toughwuss
Indie Punk Rock Record label Endorses McCain/Palin! Thats cool!
Heres what they said: http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=6195316&blogID=445350077
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We Endorse JOHN McCAIN for president! Current mood: anxious
I know this isn't going to be cool.... and it does not necesserily represent the opinions of the bands on the label..... and I do normally try to keep politics out of the label business, but this election is too important to sit on the sidelines.
I know many of you think anything "establishment" is bad... and you've got disgust for anything GW Bush and (the party that birthed him) the Republicans (and I would agree with you on many points I'm sure)... but that is not reason enough to vote for the opposition. We all like to talk about Freedom and Liberty and Equality and Justice... but none of these are Advanced by Barack Obama in more than words, platitudes and wrong headed approaches (as well meaning as they might be). I know many of you will automatically cry Racist as has been the instant cry across the media with regards to anyone who makes an honest decision not to back Obama, but I would love nothing more than to have a Black president (or a woman president), the culmination of Martin Luther Kings Dream and the framework of those inspired words in the Declaration of Independence that all men are created equal, these for so long haven't always been fully realized... We long for a time when one isn't judged on the color of their skin, but by the content of their Character... However, the Man of Character we're needing now is not Senator Obama, but John McCain!
And in spite of all the critizisms and complaints I've had about McCain in the past (and I've had many) i see only one Choice this election (it's either going to be Obama or McCain)...
If you believe like we believe that Government should be small, efficient, out of our lives as much as possible... equipped for the main goal of keeping us safe from threats foreign and domestic and not Parenting us, making us SLAVES to Government, then John S. McCain is the man you want in the White House. If you believe in your rights to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness, then John S. McCain is the man you want in the White House. If you believe in your RIGHT to own a gun and to protect yourself from those who would seek to take or endanger your life (people or governments) and liberty, then John S. McCain is the man you want in the White House. If you believe in the inherent value of innocent Human life, then John S. McCain is the man you want in the White House. If you believe in LOW taxes (or like us a Flat tax), and that paying taxes is not PATRIOTIC, but a theft in the truest sense of the word, then John S. McCain is the man you want in the White House. If you believe in AMERICA as we do, as the Last Best Hope for the world, then John S. McCain is the man you want in the White House. If you believe that Government isn't our parent, and only keeps peoples down by keeping them in the cycle of entitlements (and I'm not talking about taking care of children and those truly unable to sustain themselves), then John S. McCain is the man you want in the White House. If you believe in choice in schools, in medical care, in the ability to fully express your opinions [political or otherwise] and beliefs, then John S. McCain is the man you want in the White House. If you believe that America is and can be that City on a Hill than Vote with us for John McCain.
We want Government off our back, out of our Pocket, out of our Personal Lives... We want government that enables us to live free from danger to our persons from conception until natural death. We want the Government to stop their social engineering and encroaching into our lives and rights. We want the Courts out of the business of Legislating from the bench and to once again strictly interpret the Constitution as it was intended, not how we currently wish it to be with the tides of culture and opinion....
Many see America as the culmination of the wrongs it's committed, and I agree with you that we've done many things wrong, but we've done way more right. Electing a man on this mystical undefined concept of Change is absolutely not what we need. Obama has no record of bipartisanship, of unity, of compromise and most importantly of Good Choices both in political decisions and in personal relational choices (you can argue his being against the war all you want... we disagree, but even that choice cost him nothing, in state senate, it wasn't a stand it was an opinion, one he's ridden on all the way until today).... He has words, just words. Obama has no Experience that would lend credence to the idea that he is ready for this position. The little we know of Obama (and I really mean little) is of a well spoken, articulate, likable MAN (not black man, but huMAN) who has an uncanny ability to speak to the masses in such a way that regardless of what he says it appears to be the truth. Obama is a man who is the least known, least tested and most secretive of candidates to ever run for the office of president. And this isn't conspiracy theory, this is fact. Obama is a man who is anything but right for our Country, in that he seeks to turn America into something it is not, a place where government is GOD where it's citizens live off it's tit, are enslaved by its social nets, ensnared by its entitlements, lacking any motive to better themselves, to be their own men and women, to make their own choices, to be FREE. The America Obama is after is one which doesn't widen the middle class and make its citizenry more equal, but consolidates it's masters and creates more slaves... Obama wants to punish success and level the playing field by not seeking the best for the country and to help everyone succeed and increasing the pie for all, but to bring everyone down so that no one succeeds. We all get a trophy, only its one none of us in retrospect will want.
I'm not rich, and I probably will never be rich... but I want the possibility, and the dream, the American Dream, that if I can dream it, I can accomplish it. I can go after it, and i may make it, i may fail, but either way, Government doesn't owe me anything, not success, not a living, not health care, nothing but protecting my life from danger and getting out of my way!
-Do not let the unprecedented expenditure from the Obama campaign decide this election. Let your voices be heard and tell them in a Loud Voice... We will not be Bought!
Johnny was the Republican - and died last year. RIP
“Bonzo Goes to Bitburg” was the song that you’re referring to...”Bonzo” being Reagan, of course. Punks are being ironic when they address each other with “punk” nicknames.
Not sure if there was huge disagreement with the band over Johnny’s politics - they were as close as could be - and I knew them from ‘75 onwards. For some punk “trivia” - I lived in LA when there were maybe 50-70 identifiable “punks” on the scene. I used to draw cadaverous illustrations of “dead kennedys” and showed them at parties to...well, you probably get the picture...I’m so bad, I illustrated a punk magazine called “Vietnam Never Happened” - On the cover was a naked Josie and the Pussycats with (in the foreground) a Jughead from Archie comics, in a lotus posture, ignited by a can of gasoline, a la burning buddhist monks circa 1970. Viva la Nixon!
I think Johnny Ramone commented once about how a lot of new young punks (think Green Day types) are indistinguishable from the hippies that punks are supposed to be rebelling against. In other words, many of today’s punk are totally supporting the big government establishment.
Totally true. I can’t go to our best Punk venue here, it’s owned by an Obama Zombie.
“I lived in LA when there were maybe 50-70 identifiable “punks” on the scene”
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Dead Kennedys....man that band name shocked the crap out of me back then. Very Punk.
So maybe you knew X....let’s see that would be Exene Cervanka, John Doe, Billy Zoom and I can’t remember the drummer...Fred something?
Maybe Black Flag-I think they were LA Punk..maybe The Germs.
Ah my memory.....
Interesting, pretty much primary source, comment concerning the Ramones. I can only go by what Johnny Ramone wrote in later years. I had no idea he was a conservative when I followed the band, from a distance here in St. Louis, in their heyday.
Sure. I’ve partied with X... and the Dead Boys, Plasmatics, The Screamers, Iggy Pop, etc. Most of my old punk friends are middle class Americans now, with kids and mortgages, jobs that are kinda sucky...but we EARN our livings, CARE about our Country & Constitution and our “negative Rights”. We never bought the lie that America is a finished chapter. As far as the Dead Kennedys - I regret affiliating with them - as Jello Biafra is so much a Commie that I wouldn’t spit on his grave today. He even went on the Phil Donahue program in the ‘80’s - and is in the bag for Obama....
Yea most are for sure ,they ain’t real punks but posers.
Green Day is/was(were)/and has always been a bunch of poseurs.
They rank up there with the ‘hair’ rock bands (Poison, Winger, and the rest of that horrible decade.)
So? You're a N00b by MY standards, too! And per JR, I'm a babe in the woods....
I say Welcome Home to anyone who's truly seeing the light!!!
I’d like to thank you. This has gone beyond what you are trying to call me out on.
Be nice or I’ll whack you with my walker.
:)
Well...... shucks.....
There. THAT’S better!
LOL!!!
I’m outta here for now. Carry on, N00b. :) :) :) :) :) :)
I’m a conservative and I too am disgusted by some of the things Bush has done. I am vehemently opposed to the bailout and I do not like how expansive government has become under the Bush administration. I think Iraq will ultimately prove to be successful but they were unrealistic in the beginning about what it would take to “win” this war. Remember, McCain had to convince Bush that a surge was needed and would work. I credit him for keeping this country safe and free from further attacks but he is far from the perfect POTUS.
Not everyone has to agree with Bush 100 percent of the time to get that Obama is bad for this country. This guy is putting his a** and his future on the line by coming out and stating what he truly believes.
I don’t know this record label but it is interesting to see Zeke and the Donnas and John McCain and the Street Dogs in their top friends (no guaranty that any of them are on their small label).
Right now I’m really getting into a 20 year old Treat Her Right blooze rock album. But don’t let me stop you from listening to yours.
As well rounded as Sub-Pop was in artists recorded, Sympathy For The Record Industry was 10 times as good.
Linda Ramone is going for Mac.
My take on reading this is that the writer is not a self-identified Republican, or even a conservative, yet. What some here are calling his ‘qualifier to stay hip’ is merely his honest views, whether you agree with him and his reasoning or not. The guy has probably voted for Democrats or leftist third-party candidates his whole life.
Lay off his ‘qualifier’ and see the guy for what he appears to be - someone whose worldview and take on American politics are starting to mature and take form as conservative. Not long ago, this is how I started. I kept examining what I saw in the real world and compared it to what i heard and said in the liberal echo chamber of the average early 20’s guy in blue-state ville. Like this guy, my music and social life didn’t expose me to much conservative thought. Fugazi rocks, but they’re slightly to the left the Khmer Rouge.
I issued these qualifiers often early on. I’m still on your side guys, but... (insert rational conservative observation of the world here.) After continuously doing this, one day it simply dawned on me that I was a conservative/libertarian and that my suspicion of the government and media was shared by other conservatives, not by my liberal friends.
This election will be decided by people like this writer. They can issue whatever qualifiers they want. They can call themselves whatever they want. They don’t have to agree with everything and everyone on Free Republic. They just have to decide that Marxism is a step too far for them, and that they’d rather have McCain than Obama as president. Cut the guy some slack.
We should hang out.
Black Flag was based in L.A. Henry Rollins, who went from fan to lead singer, was a good D.C. boy like me. The Dead Kennedys, IMO, made the greatest anti-liberal hypocrisy song ever in ‘Holiday In Cambodia.’ Brilliant. A lot of these bands had a tilt that wasn’t conservative but was more libertarian/anarchist.
Agent Orange from CA was always a favorite, too.
Well said.
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