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GOP internal polling ... McCain landslide? (grain of salt / feel good alert)
Quinn and Rose Radio Show

Posted on 10/31/2008 4:52:28 AM PDT by The G Man

A regular caller to the Quinn and Rose radio program, "Carl from Ohio," who claims to be involved in the McCain campaign's internal polling operation (I know, I know ...), says that unless the Obama fraud is so widespread it will be a McCain landslide.

Here is what he says the GOP internal state by state polling is showing for last night:

NJ M - 48, O - 43, U-7
MI M - 44, O- 42, U - 10
CA O - 44, M - 43, Barr - 3, U - 9
PA M - 55, O - 33, U - 10

He says undecideds are breaking 4:1 for McCain.

In Pennsylvania, the Dem vote is O - 47, M - 37, U - 13

#1 issue for Dems voting for McCain is the that Obama is cheating and trying to buy the election


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To: TX Conservative

I have the same experience here in Georgia.

My in laws haven’t voted ever. They both registered to vote for PALIN.

They were indifferent until she was added to the ticket.

Also, my MIL never paid any attention, but is now a Fox News junkie.


121 posted on 10/31/2008 6:24:05 AM PDT by Gvl_M3
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To: Numbers Guy
"That simply is not true. If internal polls were like that you’d see McCain outside of red states + PA to put pressure on Obama. And they wouldn’t be sending Palin to Indiana to try to secure things, if McCain is up in all those states then he’s up double digits in Indiana.

Now Palin is going to IOWA!!

122 posted on 10/31/2008 6:25:54 AM PDT by cookcounty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that's not why the ship is built." ---Governor Sarah Palin)
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To: Dundee

There’s at least two, me and the wife.

McCain winning NJ? I thought that would be near impossible.

Something is different here this year though. In 2004, I saw MANY Kerry signs and bumper stickers. This year I have not seen many signs at all, for Obama or McCain.

Weird.
Maybe there is hope after all.


123 posted on 10/31/2008 6:27:41 AM PDT by NeverEVERKerry
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To: The G Man
To begin with I am obligleged to say that outside of being an official Koolaid drinker I can't see much probability for this result.

But in the remote event that this does happen, what we will be seeing first hand is the NEW SILENT MAJORITY rising up to restore the meaning and dignity of what it is to be Freedom loving Americans.

124 posted on 10/31/2008 6:30:53 AM PDT by R0CK3T
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To: The G Man

I heard a similar report on the API. They said they were going to release the poll results as soon as they had retained Berg as their attorney and they were going to release it exclusively on FOX as soon as FOX paid the ransom.


125 posted on 10/31/2008 6:33:47 AM PDT by surfer
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To: snarkytart
NJ, and MI are not close at all let alone McCain winning.

Strangely if MI is anything like it was when I lived there 10 years ago I can see it not voting Obama. Union guys I knew would not be happy with this democrat ticket and there would be nothing that could make it worth voting for especially after the dems treatment of Joe the Plumber.

NJ I do not know at all but I would have though never in my life time to see it go republican again. That one is a little hard for me to imagine but there is always wishful thinking and dreaming. I would make election night fun!

126 posted on 10/31/2008 6:35:40 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: Gvl_M3

>>I can’t find the story right now, but I’ve seen reports that Obama is only getting 55% of Hillary supporters.<<

Would love to see confirmation........call me skeptical.
Also that’s a good explanation of numbers.


127 posted on 10/31/2008 6:37:12 AM PDT by shadowspapa (All your income are belong to us)
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To: The G Man

I have been telling folks for months McCain’s taking PA, I think these numbers are agressive for M, but there is no doubt at all he’s taking PA, and with the momentum he currently has, little doubt he’ll take the state by a larger margin than Kerry or Gore took it by in the previous elections.


128 posted on 10/31/2008 6:38:56 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: The G Man

Forget hype, spin, feel-good, and scare. The only way we win is if we VOTE. And if our base votes, we WIN!

It’s easy! JUST DO IT!!!


129 posted on 10/31/2008 6:39:54 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: fortheDeclaration
You don't know why Palin is going to Ind. Why is Obama going to PA if he has it sown up.

Obama doesn't have PA sewn up. I am not arguing in any way that Obama has this election sewn up. I am arguing that the polling results cited in the original post are ridiculous garbage.

We shouldn't put our hopes in random anonymous phone calls to radio stations. We all would love for Obama to be 20 points behind right now, but he's not. McCain is trailing narrowly and hopefully the undecideds break his way so he can pull it out. But he's not running way ahead in Pennsylvania and all these other states. If he was, he wouldn't be hanging out there either.

Palin's time is a scarce resource (just as all the candidates' time is at this point). If she's being sent to Indiana it's because they are concerned about that state. That doesn't mean they're behind there, but that belies the notion that McCain is way ahead in a bunch of key states.

130 posted on 10/31/2008 6:41:36 AM PDT by Numbers Guy
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To: Cedric

Comes the Inquisitor! :/

Cedric, If you can take some time away from trying to find Communist Obamamaniacs lurking behind never new user in the FR...this alleged “internal polling” is simply to fanciful to be legitimate.

We have as much chance of being within 1 point in Kalifornia as we have of winning a socialist haven like Vermont.

Pennsylvania is certainly still in play, but not by that ridiculous margin.

Common sense, people.


131 posted on 10/31/2008 6:49:58 AM PDT by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: BradyLS

My wife and I did - early vote in Iowa. Straight R tickets, was simple - fill in one oval until it’s black, fold, seal in envelope, turn in.
She asked “what should I do, it’s so confusing” I said, hedge our bets, straight ticket just in case.

IOWA checked ID - you had to have a voter registration card and/or driver license and they verified. So it took a bit just to get your ballot.


132 posted on 10/31/2008 6:55:37 AM PDT by shadowspapa (All your income are belong to us)
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To: shadowspapa; 2ndDivisionVet

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133 posted on 10/31/2008 6:57:19 AM PDT by Gvl_M3
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To: Numbers Guy

Obama has flooded Indiana with ads. McCain has done very little in this state. The RNC started running ads on his behalf a couple weeks ago. He has run a crappy campaign. He ignored many states and allowed them to become battleground states.


134 posted on 10/31/2008 6:58:57 AM PDT by pas
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To: The G Man

Pure, unadulterated, Grade A BS. Sorry.


135 posted on 10/31/2008 7:01:59 AM PDT by kesg
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To: The G Man

The California information alone make the whole thing very suspect. No way McCain is that close on the left coast.


136 posted on 10/31/2008 7:02:18 AM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: The G Man

I have privately thought for a few days now that we might be seeing a McCain landslide shaping up and here’s why.

1. Obama has outspent McCain at least 3:1 at this point and is still pitching for more (I’m getting flooded with emails from his camp asking for even more donations). He is in danger of reaching oversaturation which is more damaging than under-exposure when people just get tired of seeing a celebrity everywhere they turn.

2. By their own admission (i.e. NY Times article last week) the MSM have provided saturation positive coverage of Obama, while their scant McCain coverage has been largely negative. I forget the exact numbers they quoted.

3. The polls we’re seeing are weighted based on voter party registration numbers which are heavily wrongly skewed Democrat for several reasons, such as ACORN type group mass fraudulent/non-existent Dem registrants, and who knows how many Operation CHAOS republican crossovers from the primaries who have never re-registered as Republicans.

For these and other reasons Obama should be ahead in every poll by this point by 15 or 20 points rather than by 4 or five. If he’s not polling over 50% by now he is history.


137 posted on 10/31/2008 7:03:47 AM PDT by caper gal 1
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To: Numbers Guy

I don’t believe Carl’s internal polling either.
But remember, McCain doesn’t have to flip any blue states to win. And with the financial disadvantage that McCain has, I could see him making a decision to run his campaign focused in the close red states that he must win...and spend time and capital in a few states that he has a fair chance of winning. (PA, Iowa, maybe NH)


138 posted on 10/31/2008 7:04:33 AM PDT by kygolfman
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To: conservative_guyz
Sorry if I was harsh or impolite newbie. It was not my intent to hurt your feelings.

However, your use of the word crap in reaction to the possibility that these numbers might have some merit for consideration at some level was offensive... After all what makes any of these numbers any more crap than those numbers that we are being fed by the worthless pollsters through the MSM every day, day in day out?

In response to your request that I defend these numbers, let me start with California, the real Obamaland:

CA O - 44, M - 43, Barr - 3, U - 9

See: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2117258/posts

10/28/08 - “California has begun early voting already as well as mail-in balloting. The number of people who have gone in to vote in person has been extensive. The results so far prove what we had always suspected. The polls are being proven as totally unreliable. Although the results of early balloting have not been disclosed,of course,how many Republicans and how many Democrats have voted has been revealed.

The results are simply shocking. The polls showed Barack Obama with an 18 point lead in California just a few days ago. The results thus far are the complete opposite. In the most liberal state in the entire country,the results are that 99,000 Republicans have voted and 96,000 Democrats voted. In the mail-in balloting the results so far are that 9,000 Democrats sent in their ballots and that 5,000 Republicans did so. So with nearly 210,000 people having voted,the Democrats have only a 1,000 vote advantage!”

I believe that this is one “example” that easily supports an Obama 44 / McCain 43 possiblity in CA instead of what the pollsters are reporting at Obama +18. Would you not agree?

In my next post to you, I'll give you some more information to aid in your digestion of some of these other numbers. These numbers may not be the end all numbers, but I am not prepared to dismiss them as crap without further investigation.

I have been predicting here that McCain is going to win and win big for a long time... and I've never had a problem with answering a call to support that prediction if ever it comes up.

139 posted on 10/31/2008 7:04:57 AM PDT by SterlingSilver (If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck and quacks like a duck... its a duck!)
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To: Perdogg

This is total BS.


140 posted on 10/31/2008 7:05:49 AM PDT by kesg
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