Obama Must Stand Up Now Or Step Down (Birth Certificate)

Conservative Edge ^ | October 29, 2008 | Dr. Edwin Vieira, Jr., Ph.D., J.D.

[2ndDivisionVet]

Note the author's credentials.

[ConservativeGreek]

This guy might be a lawyer, but the last time I looked the burden of proof is not on the defendant.

[2ndDivisionVet]

This isn’t a criminal case, it’s about his qualifying for the office he is running for. Before hiring someone, doesn’t a responsible employer check an individual’s references and make sure his/her experience and education are in line with what the resume says? We are Senator Obama’s employer!

[Fred Nerks]

HUGE PING PING PING!

Edwin Vieira, Jr., holds four degrees from Harvard: A.B. (Harvard College), A.M. and Ph.D. (Harvard Graduate School of Arts and Sciences), and J.D. (Harvard Law School).

Excerpt quote:

Of course, if Obama knows that he is not “a natural born Citizen” who never renounced his American citizenship, then he also knows that he and his henchmen have perpetrated numerous election-related frauds throughout the country—the latest, still-ongoing one a colossal swindle targeting the American people as a whole. If that is the case, his refusal “to be a witness against himself” is perfectly explicable and even defensible on the grounds of the Fifth Amendment. Howsoever justified as a matter of criminal law, though, Obama’s silence and inaction will not obviate the necessity for him to prove his eligibility for “the Office of President.” The Constitution may permit him to “take the Fifth;” but it will not suffer him to employ that evasion as a means to usurp the Presidency of the United States.

[Diogenesis]

Bute v. Illinois, 333 U.S. 640, 653 (1948), and every other
law, ruling, statute, DO NOT APPLY TO DEMOCRATS or ILLEGAL
ALIENS. So, the O-bomber is ok on two counts.

[wtc911]

Or else what? We won't vote for him?

The fact is that is nothing but an exercise in chasing your own tail.

[sierrahome]

Rules and laws don’t apply to liberals, that is unless they want them to.

[YellowRoseofTx]

There is something very wrong when he has everything about him sealed so no one call look at it.

[EQAndyBuzz]

Hehehe... You have a better chance of getting Kerry to hand over his 180.

[2ndDivisionVet]

Senator Kerry didn’t need a SF180 to qualify as president. On the other hand, being a natural-born citizen is one of the requirements to be elected president.

[blueyon]

Don’t worry about it folks (sarcasm) once Obama wins, the dems will just change the rules.....

[Diogenesis]

Line 3 (Citizenship) Indonesia
Line 4 (Religion) Islam

[mo]

IMHO,...if this guy wins the election...AND he’s NOT an American citizen...and his campaign turns out to have been financed overseas....well, we will have been Trojan Horsed...as big as the original Trojans who were Horsed by the Greeks....and somebody just bought 12 Carrier Battle Groups for 800 million dollars.

[jetson]

We are Senator Obama’s employer!

THATS RIGHT! SO IT IS TIME TO STAGE HUGE RALLIES EVEN IF THIS TRAITOR GETS IN TO CALL FOR HIM TO STEP DOWN. SAVAGE, LIMBAUGH, HANNITY....LETS GET THE WORD OUT!

[Jim Noble]

America is facing potentially the gravest constitutional crisis in her history. Barack Obama must either stand up in a public forum and prove, with conclusive documentary evidence, that he is “a natural born Citizen” of the United States who has not renounced his American citizenship—or he must step down as the Democratic Party’s candidate for President of the United States—preferably before the election is held, and in any event before the Electoral College meets. Because, pursuant to the Constitution, only “a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States at the time of the Adoption of th[e] Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President” (Article II, Section 1, Clause 4). And Obama clearly was not “a Citizen of the United States at the time of the Adoption of th[e] Constitution.”

This is all so absurd.

The Constitution clearly anticipates the possibility that the Electoral College might elect someone not eligible to the office: " If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President..."

The final arbiter is the special joint session of Congress wherein the electoral votes are counted and appeals heard.

This is the ultimate nonjusticeable political question. If the People of the United States, acting by the chusing of electors, elect Barack Obama, and if their representatives in Congress assembled ratify that choice, then it's a done deal.

No court has a voice in that process, and none should.

[snowsislander]

Whether the evidence will show that Obama is, or is not, “a natural born Citizen” who has never renounced his American citizenship is an open question. The arguments on both sides are as yet speculative. But Obama’s stubborn refusal to provide what he claims is “his own” country with conclusive proof on that score compels the presumption that he knows, or at least strongly suspects, that no sufficient evidence in his favor exists. After all, he is not being pressed to solve a problem in quantum physics that is “above his pay grade,” but only asked to provide the public with the original copy of some official record that establishes his citizenship. The vast majority of Americans could easily do so. Why will Obama not dispel the doubts about his eligibility—unless he can not?

This is correct --- if Senator "Coke-head" Obama is unwilling to do even this simple task for us, could anyone trust him with faithfully carrying out the far more arduous work that a President is confronted with?

Clearly the answer is "no". Trust must be earned, and his signal failure to make clear the circumstances of his birth with complete documentation, and his visa or citizenship status in Indonesia, is damning. This failure to completely account for his clearly complex citizenship status is utterly unacceptable.

It was only very recently that he admitted on his campaign website that he was dual citizen of Kenya, after concealing it all of these years:

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.” (http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate)

Senator Obama, your refusal to clarify this situation is simply intolerable in a candidate for President of the United States. As others pointed out, if this were the most menial position, you would have to do better than you have done so far.

[ImpBill]

"Eighth, even did something approaching civil war not eventuate from Obama’s hypothetical usurpation, if the Establishment allowed Obama to pretend to be “the President,” and the people acquiesced in that charade, just about everything that was done during his faux “tenure in office” by anyone connected with the Executive Branch of the General Government, and quite a bit done by the Legislative Branch and perhaps the Judicial Branch as well, would be arguably illegitimate and subject to being overturned when a constitutional President was finally installed in office. The potential for chaos, both domestically and internationally, arising out of this systemic uncertainty is breathtaking."

It is breathtaking. If Obama is not a natural born citizen, knows it and takes office ... well the conspiracy theories abound!

I don't know if he is or not, but the mere fact that he will not produce a Birth Certificate causes me to wonder with more than just a passing question.

We live in very troubling times!

[2ndDivisionVet]

Not to mention a fleet of bombers, nuclear submarines, ICBMs, dollar bill printing presses and the rest....

[Ditter]

bump

[Waco]

Anyone who let’s anything so simple as his place of birth threaten his ‘’term’’ of office is certainly not qualified to be prez. It’s simple stupid, produce a birth cert. then get outa here.