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Huh? Someone please explain this nonsense to me.
1 posted on 10/30/2008 7:20:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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The Barna Group for research says Obama is statistically tied (43 percent to 45 percent) with Republican John McCain among born-again Christian voters. “Born-again Christians” are defined by Barna as people who say they have made a personal commitment to Jesus and believe they will go to heaven because they have confessed their sins and accepted Jesus Christ as their savior. Based on that definition, 48 percent of all voters in this election will be “born-again” Christians.

Meantime, Barna says 63 percent of “evangelicals” are supporting McCain, while 23 percent are supporting Obama. “Evangelicals” meet the “born-again” criteria, plus seven other conditions, including the belief that salvation is only possible through grace, not works.


61 posted on 10/30/2008 7:37:30 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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"significant" is hyperbole.

That's it. Plain and simple.

UNLESS: your're talking about black ("born-again" - there's no other flavor of Christian) Christians.
Then "significant" is the right word.

64 posted on 10/30/2008 7:41:29 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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This is a steaming load of propaganda just like the NASCAR Fan poll that supported Obama. Another poll, another waste of time.....


71 posted on 10/30/2008 7:45:29 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (Since when is paying more, but getting less, considered Patriotic?)
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“48% of the voters in this election will be born-again Christians.”

Umm...nope.


74 posted on 10/30/2008 7:46:30 PM PDT by Natchez Hawk (What's so funny about the 1st, 2nd, and 4th Amendments?)
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Count me in as a Born Again Evangelical who is voting for McCain... I agree with Jesse Peterson.

It is hard to believe a person is a Christian and voting for Obama. Think of it.

Gay Marriage

Abortion

and One size fits all Religion!!!

NO THANKS!

75 posted on 10/30/2008 7:48:41 PM PDT by pollywog (I will lift mine eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help. My help comes from the Lord...Ps 121)
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People is stupid.


76 posted on 10/30/2008 7:49:34 PM PDT by Harry Wurzbach (Joe The Plumber & Rep. Thaddeus McCotter are my heroes.)
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Those

“Christians”

obviously have little to no clue about God’s heart and priorities.


78 posted on 10/30/2008 7:52:28 PM PDT by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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If anyone claims to be “born again” and with eyes open votes for Obama, I can say with assurance that they have been “born again” as a spawn of Satan.


79 posted on 10/30/2008 7:52:55 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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I have noticed someone writing letters to the editor in our local paper, supporting Obama and demeaning Palin (spreading the book banning lie) as well as saying she was incompetent and inexperienced.

The person always identified himself as a minister. I finally had enough of him and wrote a piece excoriating him on all his many errors.

My last two lines were apropos to this thread: I suppose the question I have is, “Minister of what?”. A place where there is no sanctity for the life God has given us is not a Church, but rather, a heretical social club.


82 posted on 10/30/2008 7:59:20 PM PDT by WildcatClan (The world is full of fatheads; so I invented Diet Shampoo)
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At my daughters private Christian school, about half the families are for Obama. I don’t get it.

We grew up in Texas, but now live in California. I don’t get Californian Christians at times.


84 posted on 10/30/2008 8:04:36 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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TOTAL COMPLETE NONSENSE. They better go read what The Bible has to say about Homosexuality and how God hates the hands that shed innocent blood (Abortion).


86 posted on 10/30/2008 8:06:32 PM PDT by no dems ("Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice...." Barry Goldwater)
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BS meter needed!


87 posted on 10/30/2008 8:06:47 PM PDT by dbacks (I would rather be Sarah Palin than Para-Sailin'!)
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Here is a break down of the California vote, McCain/Palin have pulled within 22 points of Obama.

At the link is a breakdown of voters including religion, income, race, etc, etc, the only group that Palin/McCain win in are protestant evangelicals.

http://www.sacbee.com/capitolandcalifornia/story/1355421-a1355602-t46.html


90 posted on 10/30/2008 8:10:44 PM PDT by ansel12 ( When a conservative pundit mocks Wasilla, he's mocking conservatism as it's actually lived.)
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btt


92 posted on 10/30/2008 8:12:46 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Todd Palin signed my t-shirt Oct.18 at NRA rally, N. Versailles PA Sportsmen's Club.)
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"'born-again' Christians are backing Obama"

Oh yeah I believe that just like I believe Obama is a Christian, just like Obama didn't know Rev Wright was a racist, just like Obama didn't know Ayres was a terrorist, just like the News media isn't biased.... like....LMAO...these people are nuts.

93 posted on 10/30/2008 8:13:10 PM PDT by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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>>Huh? Someone please explain this nonsense to me.<<

It’s easy. A lot of born again Christians are black. All humans are racist to some degree or another. A lot of blacks are voting for him because he is black and really pretty ignorant of all the things we discuss here.

A similar thing happened with white people regarding Jimmy Carter. It wasn’t racial in that case, but the simple fact that he was the “Christian” candidate was enough for them. I was accutely aware of it because I was NOT a Christian at the time and then became one. I was dumbfounded by my “conservative” friends support of him over Reagan until I remembered the Christian connection.

Race is very real in this election, even to those that won’t admit it to themselves.


96 posted on 10/30/2008 8:15:56 PM PDT by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in the 1930's.)
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Does Barry Obama consider himself a “born again” Christian?


103 posted on 10/30/2008 8:24:27 PM PDT by petitfour
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Does this jabber remind anyone else of those IQ test questions?
“If all pogs are nogs and nogs are togs then...”

Nonsense.


104 posted on 10/30/2008 8:24:43 PM PDT by ReneeLynn (The heels are on, the gloves are off.~ Sarah Palin)
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I can totally see how some Evangelicals can sip the Obama Kool-aide. Heck, many of them fall traps to cult-like TV Evangelist who turn out to be total frauds.

Some of them are not real Christians at all IMO, they live through their feelings, and if something feels good they are hooked. Large crowds, cult-like charismatic leader, the feeling of the moment all come into play to these young Obamabots.


107 posted on 10/30/2008 8:27:25 PM PDT by RatsDawg (John McCain fought Communism in Vietnam, and now he is fighting Communist in America.)
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High number of Christians because they are from Black Churches...this is what makes the number high.....

There are a lot of church goers, Christians who will not back Obama....lets not forget, Christians are sinners....they too have prejudices!

110 posted on 10/30/2008 8:31:00 PM PDT by Texas4ever (!WHO IS OBAMA?)
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