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Opinion: Is there a ‘Catholic Vote’? Will Catholics Decide this Election?
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| 10/31/08
| Deacon Keith Fournier
Posted on 10/30/2008 3:33:23 PM PDT by tcg
Make no mistake; those who say that a Catholic with a truly formed conscience can choose to vote for such a candidate when an alternative is available - who acknowledges the right to life, opposes Roe v Wade and refuses to sign the Freedom of Choice Act - are wrong. When they tell Catholics that such a choice is a proper interpretation of Catholic Moral teaching they must be exposed and opposed. I cannot and will not vote for a candidate who fails to recognize the very ground of all fundamental human rights, the right to life. In this election, that candidate talks a lot about the poor but then selectively hears the cry of only some of them. He stops his ears to the cry of the ones whom Blessed Mother Theresa called the poorest of the poor, children in the womb. Every issue of human rights is a moral issue. Catholic teachers of constitutional Law are not the moral teachers of our Church. That is particularly obvious when their analysis is so clearly in error. The moral teachers of our Catholic Church are our Bishops, in union with Pope.
Is there a Catholic Vote? Will it Turn this election? Well, as to the first question, not in the way in which there needs to be in the future. However, as to the second question, if every Catholic who knows the truth concerning the humanity of our first neighbors in the womb votes in a manner consistent with the moral duty that such a knowledge brings with it - by rejecting the candidate who refuses to recognize their right to life and who will set back efforts to protect them - then Catholics will decide this election. We will all know very soon.
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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; antichrist; catholics; obamatruth; president
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To: tcg
I can understand how anyone can fall out from the Church, but I can't understand how the Church itself can fall from Scripture. I'm told that the Church leaders want to maintain their congregations and that it's more important to stay mainstream and relevant and keep the pews full than it is to strictly adhere to Principles and thus run people off. If people aren't in Church, then they can't be reached and their ways can't be guided and corrected.
To me, it sounds like the rot runs deep, that in too many cases, the Churches have become political, not spiritual. How else can someone like Pelosi or Biden be considered good Catholics and receive Communion? It must be all that money and fame they bring to their Parishes. What is the price of a soul or the soul of the Church itself? I wonder what Jesus would say.
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posted on
10/30/2008 4:49:13 PM PDT
by
GBA
To: lmc12
Today's First Readings at Mass -- October 30, 2008. Words in blue are explained below.
Eph 6:10-20
Brothers and sisters:
Draw your strength from the Lord and from his mighty power.
Put on the armor of God so that you may be able to stand firm
against the tactics of the Devil.
For our struggle is not with flesh and blood
but with the principalities, with the powers,
with the world rulers of this present darkness,
with the evil spirits in the heavens. Principalities, powers, darkness, evil spirits all refer to fallen angels or to the devil.
Therefore, put on the armor of God, armor=belief
that you may be able to resist on the evil day evil day=election day
and, having done everything, to hold your ground.
So stand fast with your loins girded in truth, while voting
clothed with righteousness as a breastplate,
and your feet shod in readiness for the Gospel of peace.
In all circumstances, hold faith as a shield,
to quench all the flaming arrows of the Evil One. who wants us to be voting for abortion
And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit,
which is the word of God. the Bible
With all prayer and supplication,
pray at every opportunity in the Spirit.
To that end, be watchful with all perseverance and supplication
for all the holy ones and also for me, Pray for the innocent babies
that speech may be given me to open my mouth,
to make known with boldness the mystery of the Gospel
for which I am an ambassador in chains, Are each of us an ambassador as St. Paul was?
so that I may have the courage to speak as I must.
I was the reader at Daily Mass today and all these thoughts (in blue) went flashing through my mind as I prepared for proclaiming this reading. Any thoughts?
Pray for the candidates that support life -- McCain-Palin
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posted on
10/30/2008 6:39:04 PM PDT
by
Salvation
( †With God all things are possible.†)
To: Integrityrocks
Guess you haven't seen this. 100 out of 197 bishops and counting.
The list of U. S. bishops who have spoken out on the priority of the life issues in this election is now over 100. The list now contains 70 individual bishops and three joint statements.
I would like to continue updating this list until the day of the election. I have tried to incorporate all the comments thus far. If I dd not get them all, I apologize. (For a few of the suggestions, I could not find a suitable link.)
Please continue using the comments section to let us know what bishop is not on this list who should be. This would include any bishop who has individually, or jointly, published a statement about this election pointing out the primacy of the life issues.
Thank you for your help.
1. Archbishop Charles Chaput of Denver
2. Bishop James Conley, auxiliary of Denver
3. Archbishop Donald Wuerl of Washington, D.C.
4. Justin Cardinal Rigali of Philadelphia, chairman of the Committee on Pro-Life Activities
5. Bishop William Lori of Bridgeport, chairman of the Committee on Doctrine
6. Edward Cardinal Egan of New York
7. Bishop Samuel Aquila of Fargo
8. Bishop David Zubik of Pittsburgh
9. Bishop Michael Sheridan of Colorado Springs
10. Archbishop Jose Gomez of San Antonio
11. Bishop Oscar Cantu, auxiliary of San Antonio
12. Bishop William Murphy of Rockville Centre
15. Bishop Gregory Aymond of Austin
17. Bishop Thomas Wenski of Orlando
18. Archbishop John Nienstedt of Saint Paul/Minneapolis
19. Francis Cardinal George of Chicago, President of the USCCB
20. Bishop Robert Vasa of Baker
22. Bishop Richard Lennon of Cleveland
25. Bishop Glen Provost of Lake Charles, LA
26. Bishop Nicholas DiMarzio of Brooklyn
27. Bishop Joseph F. Martino of Scranton
28. Archbishop Raymond Burke, Prefect of the Apostolic Signatura
30. Bishop Peter J. Jugis of Charlotte
31. Bishop Michael F. Burbidge of Raleigh
32. Archbishop Joseph Naumann of Kansas City, KS
33. Bishop Robert Finn of Kansas City-St. Joseph, MO
34. Bishop Robert C. Morlino of Madison, WS
35. Bishop Ronald Gilmore of Dodge City, KS
36. Bishop Paul Coakley of Salina, KS
37. Bishop Michael Jackels of Wichita
38. Bishop Gerald M. Barbarito of Palm Beach
39. Bishop Kevin W. Vann of Fort Worth
40. Bishop Rene H.
Gracida, retired, of Corpus Christi
41. Daniel Cardinal
DiNardo of Houston
42. Bishop Paul S.
Loverde of Arlington
44. Bishop William
Murphy of Rockville Center
45. Bishop Robert
McManus of Worcester
48. Archbishop Edwin
O'Brien of Baltimore
49. Bishop Thomas J.
Olmsted of Phoenix
50. Bishop Thomas D.
Doran of Rockford
51. Bishop Joseph A.
Galante of Camden
52. Bishop Robert J.
Baker of Birmingham
53. Archbishop Alexander J.
Brunett of Seattle
54. Bishop J. Peter
Sartain of Joliet
55. Bishop John M.
Smith of Trenton
56. Bishop Earl
Boyea of Lansing
57. Bishop Leonard R.
Blair of Toledo
58. Bishop Frances J. Dewane of Venice
59. Bishop W. Frances
Malooly of Wilmington
60. Bishop Robert
Morlino of Madison
61. Bishop John
Yanta , retired, of Amarillo
62. Bishop James V.
Johnston of Springfield-Cape Girardeau
63. Archbishop John
Vlazny of Portland
64. Bishop Blase J.
Cupich of Rapid City
65. Bishop Lawrence
Brandt of Greensburg
66. Bishop Dennis M.
Schnurr of Cincinatti
67. Bishop Larry
Silva of Honolulu
68. Bishop Paul
Swain of Sioux Falls
69. Bishop Michael J.
Sheehan of Santa Fe
70. Bishop Eusebius
Beltran of Oklahoma City
71. Bishop Kevin C.
Rhoades of Harrisburg
72. Joint Statement by the bishops of New York State (22 bishops)
73. Joint
Statement by the bishops of Pennsylvania (16 bishops)
74. Joint
Statement by the bishops of Kansas (4 bishops)
75. Joint
Statement by the bishops of Florida (9 bishops)
http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/aggregator.php?entry=606961
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posted on
10/30/2008 6:40:47 PM PDT
by
Salvation
( †With God all things are possible.†)
To: HEY4QDEMS
“It won’t be decided so much by who votes but rather how they vote, with their eyes open or closed.”
Unless some of those with their eyes closed to the very literal vision of what happens to these babies, see the video done by Eduardo Verastegui, they can put the issue away in the back of their minds and disregard it at the polls.
I think it’s only the viewing of this video, http://www.durarealidad.com/
that will make a difference, especially with younger voters, who want to be part of the hip ticket, and for whom the economic issues are not of uppermost importance. They have to reached on a purely emotional level, and it’s not too late. We can reach many, many of these voters in 4 days. Once seen, it can never be forgotten, or put on a shelf.
PLEASE, PLEASE post this video, wherever you think young voters will see it, FACEBOOK, etc. This is our only chance to reach those hearts that are going to vote Obama.
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posted on
10/31/2008 12:12:00 PM PDT
by
adc
(Rush '08All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently oppos)
To: tcg
I have been saying this for months if not longer...
I got to see Schumer and Emanuel bragging on TV about how they took back the House and Senate with a sweep from PA westward. My guess is by looking at the map of Catholic Voters, they picked of disenfranchised (or liberation theology) Catholics in regards to the war. My gut feel is they do not trust Obamee and his inexperience and Sarah's Example of embracing life might just ring home with them.
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posted on
10/31/2008 12:18:40 PM PDT
by
taildragger
(The Answer is Fred Thompson, I do not care what the question is.....)
To: tcg
Unfortunately, there are very many muddle-minded Catholics out there. I speak from experience, I'm referring to my own parents.
I should use the term "adoptive parents" since that's what they are. If abortion had been legal fifty plus years ago, they would not have been able to adopt me, and later, another baby that became my brother. So, it's not like they don't know what abortion means.
They're churchgoing (well, until Dad's Parkinson's got too bad), and as religious as any Catholics I know, but they've been drinking Obama's kool-ade ever since he appeared on the cover of Time magazine for the first time. Fortunately, they live in WA, which is never a swing state, and they cannot do any electoral harm there.
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posted on
10/31/2008 12:23:03 PM PDT
by
hunter112
(They can have my pie when they pry it out of my cold, dead piehole.)
To: taildragger
I’ve never seen such a detailed state breakdown of the Catholic vote. Interesting that such a large number of the states where Catholics show higher percentages are the states which the campaign has thrown under. Specifically, NYNJCTMA, etc.
I think it’s because they have miscalulated the campaign issue that is the only one Obama could be beaten on. The Moral one. This country is a faithful country, but, instead we all all so focused on the economy, (thanks to he pollsters and the MSM, and maybe Rove as well), that we have missed the forest for the trees. JMO
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posted on
10/31/2008 1:12:14 PM PDT
by
adc
(Rush '08All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently oppos)
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