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Bad News for Obama (The AP rips his informercial tonight)
AP ^ | Oct 29, 2008 | CALVIN WOODWARD

Posted on 10/29/2008 10:17:27 PM PDT by RobinMasters

WASHINGTON (AP) - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was less than upfront in his half-hour commercial Wednesday night about the costs of his programs and the crushing budget pressures he would face in office.

Obama's assertion that "I've offered spending cuts above and beyond" the expense of his promises is accepted only by his partisans. His vow to save money by "eliminating programs that don't work" masks his failure throughout the campaign to specify what those programs are - beyond the withdrawal of troops from Iraq.

A sampling of what voters heard in the ad, and what he didn't tell them:

THE SPIN: "That's why my health care plan includes improving information technology, requires coverage for preventive care and pre-existing conditions and lowers health care costs for the typical family by $2,500 a year."

THE FACTS: His plan does not lower premiums by $2,500, or any set amount. Obama hopes that by spending $50 billion over five years on electronic medical records and by improving access to proven disease management programs, among other steps, consumers will end up saving money. He uses an optimistic analysis to suggest cost reductions in national health care spending could amount to the equivalent of $2,500 for a family of four. Many economists are skeptical those savings can be achieved, but even if they are, it's not a certainty that every dollar would be passed on to consumers in the form of lower premiums.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.myway.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; antichrist; elections; hypnosis; infomercial; obama
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To: OldTCS

Now that the reciept has been debunked as fake, it is clear that internet copies of documents are unreliable and easy to fake.....sort of like a birth certificate.


41 posted on 10/30/2008 6:23:34 AM PDT by lacrew (Let Biden be Biden!)
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To: seoul62; Fred
Was this receipt a fake?

Yes, the receipt is fake and the NY Post retracted the story behind it. Apparently Michelle Obama was not even in New York at that time.

42 posted on 10/30/2008 6:24:02 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: Travis T. OJustice

Again, I don’t care. I’m tired of standing in pretty lines with bright red jackets while the animals on the Left do everthing they can to destroy this country. If this perfectly believable “urban legend” wins votes and SAVES this country from a Marxist, so be it. My honor is less important than keeping an EVIL man who doesn’t give a damn about children who survive an abortion out of power.


43 posted on 10/30/2008 6:26:06 AM PDT by Maverick68 (w)
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To: RobinMasters

I read the AP story last night on the web. It was not on the front page of my newspaper this morning.


44 posted on 10/30/2008 6:27:53 AM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The New York Post political reporters (pro Obama all the time) and two infomercial specialists they questioned panned it.


45 posted on 10/30/2008 6:29:17 AM PDT by moose2004 (Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill And Then Drill Some M,ore)
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To: Henchster

Actually Bill Clinton promised universal health care for everyone, a middle class tax cut and a balanced budget. Lies, lies, lies, lies, nothing but lies, Axelrod simply took a page from Slick’s 1992 playbook.


46 posted on 10/30/2008 6:32:40 AM PDT by moose2004 (Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill And Then Drill Some M,ore)
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To: RobinMasters
"eliminating programs that don't work" masks his failure throughout the campaign to specify what those programs are - beyond the withdrawal of troops from Iraq.

I just love how people think that pulling the troops out of Iraq is going to save so much money. You are still going to have to supply and house and feed those troops where ever they are, and you are still going to have to pay them. He's planning on moving troops to Afganistan, what will that cost?

47 posted on 10/30/2008 6:43:53 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: RobinMasters

Bambi prevaricates, smoke and mirrors, tell ‘em what they want to hear........abrcadabra......the wizard of oz.......


48 posted on 10/30/2008 6:53:46 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Ontie found by British press, not by American press many of whom live in Boston and surrounds..........no, why look in your own frickin backyard for the obvious.


49 posted on 10/30/2008 6:56:24 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: RobinMasters
The AP's trying to get a little truth out so they don't look like total suck-ups to the DNC. It's like a coach putting in the second team when he knows he's got a win.

Sorry AP, it's too little too late.

50 posted on 10/30/2008 6:58:17 AM PDT by GOPJ ( Ayers' book "Prairie Fire" was dedicated to the assassin Sirhan Sirhan - killer of Robert Kennedy.)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

LOL, oh well. I’m pretty sure you won’t see them at McD’s though :)


51 posted on 10/30/2008 7:00:15 AM PDT by OldTCS (The Democrats choice of mascot is an insult to Jackasses everywhere!)
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To: OldTCS

Actually, It was submitted to the NY Post and when they went to verify it, it was wrong in many ways, including the item prices.


52 posted on 10/30/2008 7:47:40 AM PDT by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: Wonderama Mama
$200,000 a year. I thought it was $250K. Biden said $150K a couple of days ago. Can't they keep it straight on whose money their going to redistribute?

Heh. The numbers would only matter if they had any intent to do it. This is pure prolefeed.

Bill Clinton promised a middle class tax cut in 1992. The middle class got a tax hike in 1993.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

53 posted on 10/30/2008 9:18:21 AM PDT by Criminal Number 18F (Humor me, I'm one of those scary combat vets)
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To: sirchtruth
Well... its $33,000 under mcCain (assuming Congress doesn't up the percentage) or $40,000+ under Obama. You pick who you want to advocate the tax rate. Obama wants more taxes and more spending. McCain wants to cut spending and lower taxes.

Secret: If you want to keep more of YOUR MONEY... vote McCain and hope like h*ll Pelosi doesn't end up with a veto proof Congress!

54 posted on 10/30/2008 9:30:31 AM PDT by April Lexington (I'm voting for McCain in 2008 and Jefferson Davis in 2012)
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To: CanadianMusherinMI

Great post!


55 posted on 10/30/2008 9:35:37 AM PDT by April Lexington (I'm voting for McCain in 2008 and Jefferson Davis in 2012)
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To: wideminded

She was in NY, though. Why do you think she was not in NY at the time of the receipt?


56 posted on 10/30/2008 1:46:15 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: TaxRelief
She was in NY, though. Why do you think she was not in NY at the time of the receipt?

According to a number of previous articles she was giving a speech in Indiana that afternoon. Factcheck.org has now updated their page on this to say that she did come to New York that evening but had not arrived until after the time of the receipt and did not stay at the Waldorf.

Of course they do credit the Obama campaign with this information, but assuming Michelle Obama gave a speech at 1 PM in Fort Wayne, Indiana and concluded by 2 PM, I do not thing it is believable that she could travel 600 miles to New York, drive into downtown Manhattan, check into her hotel and sign the receipt for her room service all in the space of two hours.

As for the receipt, it is an obvious hoax. Besides the fact that the two signatures are identical, people on FR were changing the numbers on the receipt even after if was first posted.

57 posted on 10/30/2008 2:15:02 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: RobinMasters
You have to live in wonderland if you think anyone is going to get a tax cut in the next 5 years. The Fed has spent you and your grandchildren into outer space, someone will have to pay.

They are counting on you!

58 posted on 10/30/2008 2:20:21 PM PDT by Afronaut (It's 1984)
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To: wideminded

ha! the time on the fake receipt! Now we’re using the fake evidence to disprove the hoax.

BTW, Factcheck is a project of the Annenberg Foundation, just as ACORN is.


59 posted on 10/30/2008 4:21:35 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: TaxRelief
Factcheck is a project of the Annenberg Foundation, just as ACORN is.

Not everything is a conspiracy. There are plenty of other independent sources for this information, some of which are linked to in the factcheck article.

As for whether this incident occurred, the Post has retracted the story and someone on here said that Murdoch had even apologized for it.

As for the Annenberg Foundation, I don't think that it is necessarily true that anything connected with this foundation is bad or that "ACORN is a project of the Annenberg Foundation" especially as ACORN was founded nearly two decades before the foundation.

60 posted on 10/30/2008 4:54:48 PM PDT by wideminded
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