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Judge tosses lawsuit over Obama citizenship
Tri-City Herald ^ | October 28, 2008 | AP & Tri-City Herald

Posted on 10/28/2008 12:29:53 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn

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To: CaribouCrossing

Can you imagine a secretary of state allowing the parties to self-police. Talk about gross negligence.


41 posted on 10/28/2008 1:02:31 PM PDT by nufsed
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To: Aria

The Constitution: “We The People, ...For The People, etc.” has been screwed!!!


42 posted on 10/28/2008 1:02:37 PM PDT by danamco
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
ON THE COMING CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS (Why McCain needs to win)

This was sent to Rep Judy Biggert (R-IL-13) today:

Dear Rep Biggert:

There has been a troubling lawsuit, now dismissed, in Pennsylvania that attempted to clarify the citizenship and eligibility for the Democrat candidate who is running for President.

The courts have thusfar ruled that the US citizen who brought the case does not "have standing" in the court. The question needs to be asked 'Who has standing to challenge the eligibility of a Presidential candidate?

From what I can tell, the determination of eligibility happens at the Elector College step. In this current campaign, if the Democrat challenger wins, there will be a constitutional crisis the likes we have never seen.

In response to the lawsuit, the DNC was joined. A spokesman from the DNC to the court admitted, on the record, that if the true birth and citizenship information was made public, it would be "embarrassing to the candidate".

Maybe the data is embarrassing, but that should be far secondary to finding out if the candidate is truly eligible to serve.

Please promise that if the Democrat candidate is elected, the eligibility challenge will get a fair hearing at the Electoral College step. I believe Sen. McCain can win, but if the opponent wins, this country is in real trouble of we have a leader who is ineligible.

Many Democrats still hold a grudge saying that President Bush is STILL ineligible based on the 2000 vote. The "native born" issue is far more problematic.

Good luck in the election - you have my support.

Again, please promise to challenge eligibility at the Electoral College step if we get that far.

Best regards,

S..... ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

This guy could not pass a simple security clearance much less pass a vetting process for the office of President. All of these "dismissed" lawsuits should be used at the Electoral College level (per the Constitution) to prevent him from taking office. Who dares to "speak truth" to this phony power?!?!?!

43 posted on 10/28/2008 1:03:27 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: pissant

Now just who the F*** is IN CHARGE OF VERIFICATION.


Good question as apparently there isn’t any federal laws that provide for proving qualifications prior to running. Apparently states don’t require the proof either. And I know of nothing in the Constitution that states one be required to prove qualifications to be President in order to run.

So it seems to me that one can run without any proof of qualifications. But if elected then it would seem that one could be challenged to provide proof either before or after taking office. Who knows what the process should be.

Personally, I’d like to see Obama defeated on Nov. 4 so that such proof wouldn’t be required.


44 posted on 10/28/2008 1:03:56 PM PDT by deport ( ----Cue Spooky Music---)
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To: CaribouCrossing

Some guy posted above that there are many precedences for filing these cases. We need a judge with moose balls to stand up and call BS on the birth certificate.


45 posted on 10/28/2008 1:04:06 PM PDT by nufsed
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To: pissant

The Pontus Pilate Washings!!!


46 posted on 10/28/2008 1:04:07 PM PDT by danamco
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To: Non-Sequitur

“If that’s all that frustrates you about our government then you’re doing better than me.”

I don’t know why you have gotten the impression that that is all that frustrates me about our government. I’m sure my list is as long as yours and every other American who loves our country and sees the dangers we face not only with the possibility of an Obama presidency, but the far-left lurch our country is taking.


47 posted on 10/28/2008 1:04:33 PM PDT by CaribouCrossing
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To: Calpernia
Berg, as a registered Democrat, has standing to file against the party.

Just being a registered Democrat doesn't automatically convey standing, Berg needed to show an actual injury suffered by Obama's running. As the Judge Surrick outlined in his decision.

48 posted on 10/28/2008 1:04:43 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: nufsed

“Can you imagine a secretary of state allowing the parties to self-police. Talk about gross negligence.”

“Gross negligence”, is exactly what this is. Well put.


49 posted on 10/28/2008 1:06:00 PM PDT by CaribouCrossing
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
I think this Judge just pulled this ruling from the deep recesses of his (fill in the blank)....

If a Secretary of State, who has to certify elections, has no legal standing, then who does?

50 posted on 10/28/2008 1:06:00 PM PDT by pray4liberty (Watch, pray, and work. This election will separate the sheep from the goats.)
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To: danamco

Looks like an oligarchy, walks like an oligarchy, talks like an oligarchy. Hmmm.


51 posted on 10/28/2008 1:06:20 PM PDT by LuxMaker (The Constitution is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, Thomas J 1819)
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To: pissant

Howard Dean now has a legal admission from it since he didn’t respond (yes, no tossed out).

But the legal admission was that he had material and knowledge of Obama’s citizenship status.

I found that interesting.


52 posted on 10/28/2008 1:06:43 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: PDGearhead

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53 posted on 10/28/2008 1:06:59 PM PDT by danamco
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To: Calpernia

yes, no tossed out = yes, now tossed out


54 posted on 10/28/2008 1:07:39 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: pissant
Doe ANYONE know who IS responsible? Are we to take the word of the parties themselves????

I think so. When it comes to the Presidency, I don't think this issue has ever really come up. I don't agree with you the Obama is not a natural-born citizen. However, he has the most convuluted personal history of anyone who has ever run for the Presidency. I don't think the FF's ever considered that there would be any doubt as to someone's qualifications. This is certainly a blind spot in the electoral process.

55 posted on 10/28/2008 1:07:39 PM PDT by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: nufsed

“Moose balls” is exactly what we need. I will continue to pray for an October, or early November before the election, surprise.


56 posted on 10/28/2008 1:08:21 PM PDT by CaribouCrossing
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To: deport

“Personally, I’d like to see Obama defeated on Nov. 4 so that such proof wouldn’t be required.”

That appears to be our only hope at this point in time. However, even when Obama is defeated, this issue needs to stay front and center lest it happen again.


57 posted on 10/28/2008 1:10:56 PM PDT by CaribouCrossing
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To: pissant
Simple, the Justice Department, an agent of the Executive Branch which is in charge of, executing the law and defending the interest of the US.

Private citizen(s) going through the court system is futile because there are no procedures placed for what people desire in this Birth Certificate/naturalized citizen saga.

All Obama has to do is tell the court I am not proving/giving you jack crap because you have no authority. Now a knock on the door from the Justice Dept. with "If only one parent was a U.S. Citizen at the time of birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.”

Justice Dept. will have the authority to act on the law (Since it's their job) presumably if they have evidence of a fake location for the birth and if Obama refuses to comply off to court/contempt. In other words Obama will get off because Bush is not doing squat (Or already investigated and found the Hawaii birth accurate).
58 posted on 10/28/2008 1:11:52 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Berg’s filing against the DNC was showing they didn’t vet their candidate.


59 posted on 10/28/2008 1:12:16 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: pissant

This is the admissions the DNC didn’t respond to.

DNC - Admitted:

1. The DNC nominated Barrack Hussein Obama as the Democratic Nominee for President.
2. The DNC has not vetted Barrack Hussein Obama.

3. The DNC did not have a background check performed on Barrack Hussein Obama.
4.The DNC did not verify Barrack Hussein Obama’s eligibility to serve as President of the United States.

5. The DNC admits Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya.
6. The DNC admits Barrack Hussein Obama is not a “natural born” United States citizen.

7. The DNC admits Barrack Hussein Obama was not born in Hawaii.
8.The DNC admits they have not inquired into Barrack Hussein Obama’s citizenship status.

9. The DNC admits they have a duty to properly vette the Democratic Nominee for President.
10.The DNC admits Lolo Soetoro, M.A., an Indonesian citizen adopted Barrack Hussein Obama.

11. The DNC admits the Credentials Committee has been aware of this lawsuit since August 22, 2008 as the lawsuit was faxed to our Washington D.C. Office on August 22, 2008.

12. The DNC admits their Credentials Committee failed to verify and/or inquire into the credentials of Barack Hussein Obama to serve as the President of the United States.

13. The DNC admits their Credential Committee’s Report failed to address the issues of Barack Hussein Obama’s ineligibility to serve as President of the United States.
14.The DNC admits Howard Dean, Chair Person has and had knowledge Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya and ineligible to serve as the President of the United States.

15. The DNC admits Plaintiff and all Democratic citizens of the United States have been personally injured as a result of not having a qualified Democratic Presidential Nominee to cast their votes upon.
16. The DNC admits Plaintiff and all citizens of the United States have a Constitutional Right to vote for the President of the United States and to have two (2) qualified candidates of which to choose from.

17. The DNC admits Plaintiff and all citizens of the United States have a Constitutional right to have a properly vetted Democratic Presidential Nominee of which to cast their vote.
18. The DNC admits an FBI background check is not performed on the Presidential or Vice Presidential Candidates.

19. The DNC admits the United States Constitution does not allow for a Person to hold the office of President of the United States unless that person is a “natural born” United States citizen.
20. The DNC admits they collected donations on behalf of Barack Hussein Obama for his Presidential campaign.

21. The DNC admits Plaintiff and Democratic citizens donated money based on false representations that Barack Hussein Obama was qualified to serve as the President of the United States.
22. The DNC admits if Barack Hussein Obama is elected as President and allowed to serve as President of the United States in violation of our Constitution, it will create a Constitutional crisis.

23. The DNC admits Barack Hussein Obama took an Oath to uphold the United States Constitution.
24. The DNC admits allowing a person who is not a “natural born” citizen to serve as President of the United States violates Plaintiff’s rights to due process of law in violation of the United States Constitution.

25. The DNC admits allowing a person who is not a “natural born” citizen to serve as President of the United States violates Plaintiff’s rights to Equal Protection of the laws in violation of the United States Constitution.
26. The DNC admits the function of the DNC is to secure a Democratic Presidential Candidate who will protect Democratic citizen’s interests, fight for their equal opportunities and fight for justice for all Americans.

27. The DNC admits the Democratic National Committee has been promoting Barack Hussein Obama’s Presidential election knowing he was ineligible to serve as President of the United States.


60 posted on 10/28/2008 1:16:37 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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