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SAN FRANCISCO: A change in plans for mayor's idea to install meters for the homeless
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 10/28/8 | Heather Knight

Posted on 10/28/2008 7:49:59 AM PDT by SmithL

We told you back in May about Mayor Gavin Newsom's plan to install 10 bright orange parking meters - dubbed homeless meters - around the city with signs reading "Be a part of change. Don't give change."

The idea was for people to drop their nickels and dimes into meters instead of giving them to panhandlers, and the money would be dispersed to nonprofits serving homeless people. The installation of the meters was supposedly just weeks away, but as you may have noticed, they're still not up.

Turns out the message wasn't exactly received the way the mayor wanted. People thought the idea was funny, and it's not supposed to be. So his staff will unveil the meters in February along with a marketing campaign to educate people about the serious consequences of giving money to panhandlers instead of legitimate charities.

"It's a sexy thing for people to mock and minimize," Newsom said of the homeless meters, noting he's working on a way to get the message out to the public directly without, ahem, the media framing the story.

"It will be a really exciting, organized effort to use the meters to strengthen the conversation around poverty," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: anytwosomenewsom; homelessindustry; sanfranciscovalues; sparechange
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"It's a sexy thing for people to mock and minimize," Newsom said . . .
whether you like it or not!
1 posted on 10/28/2008 7:50:00 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL
Too bad that Gavin Newsom is who he is. These meters are actually a good idea.
2 posted on 10/28/2008 7:53:01 AM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: SmithL

Just when I think San Francisco can’t possibly get any more ridiculous ...


3 posted on 10/28/2008 7:53:17 AM PDT by mgc1122
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To: pnh102
These meters are actually a good idea.

Only if the homeless person is standing right next to them. Otherwise, there no visible way to "assauge guilt" when confronted with the panhandler, and people will just 'buy them off' anyway...
4 posted on 10/28/2008 7:55:26 AM PDT by beezdotcom
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To: SmithL

.....use the meters to strengthen the conversation around poverty......

The meters are a do it yourself tax.


5 posted on 10/28/2008 7:56:19 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Ferengi?.....Probably not, but he sure has the lobes)
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To: mgc1122

Atlanta already has them............


6 posted on 10/28/2008 7:59:57 AM PDT by wrench
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To: bert

Worse even than the existing dumb tax.

At least with that I have a one in an 18 million chance of winning riches.


7 posted on 10/28/2008 8:03:07 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: SmithL

Funny, when I read the headline, I thought they were planning to require the homeless to feed meters to pay for sidewalk space for sleeping or panhandling.

Now, THAT idea might have some merit. :)

I can actually understand the idea behind the meters. Many people want to help people with genuine needs, but don’t want to give to scammers or for the homeless to buy drugs or booze.

That said, I can’t imagine the government doing a good job allocating the change. Give to a local, faith based charity.


8 posted on 10/28/2008 8:04:48 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: SmithL

How about vending machines stocked with bum wines?


9 posted on 10/28/2008 8:06:04 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Somewhere in Illinois, a community is missing its organizer.)
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To: SmithL
This isn't a new idea. But at least the Lions' machines gave you a gumball for your money.


10 posted on 10/28/2008 8:06:36 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Above My Pay Grade
Funny, when I read the headline, I thought they were planning to require the homeless to feed meters to pay for sidewalk space for sleeping or panhandling.

Har! That was my first thought as well.
Turns out they are actually stupidity meters. How stupid do you have to be to put money in them?

11 posted on 10/28/2008 8:08:39 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: andy58-in-nh

...Or a “meter” that a bum can drop a quarter into and get a gulp of Mad Dog 20/20 from a spigot sticking out the side?


12 posted on 10/28/2008 8:10:50 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Absolutely. Let them have a variety from which to choose their next hangover: Wild Irish Rose, Thunderbird, Ripple, Night Train, Boone’s Farm: a veritable wino variety pack.


13 posted on 10/28/2008 8:14:04 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Somewhere in Illinois, a community is missing its organizer.)
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Let them have a variety from which to choose their next hangover: Wild Irish Rose, Thunderbird, Ripple, Night Train, Boone’s Farm: a veritable wino variety pack.

Yeah, who says a San Fransicko bum can't be a connoisseur?

14 posted on 10/28/2008 8:24:01 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: SmithL
I'd like to see a show of hands of everyone that believes the money would actual “trickle down” to the homeless. Politicians have more ways to dip into the public pockets than Carters has Little Liver Pills (is my age showing?)Liberals are ludicrous, they always want everyones money, even the homeless people's panhandling take. If it weren't so outrageous it'd be simply stupid, but then there are those who would rather put it in a meter than actually donate time or money to any religion or decent organization like the Salvation Army, my charity of choice, that actually helps these people.
15 posted on 10/28/2008 8:27:22 AM PDT by pepperdog (The world has gone crazy.)
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Yeah, who says a San Fransicko bum can't be a connoisseur?

I think that should read "conno-sewer".


16 posted on 10/28/2008 8:30:32 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Somewhere in Illinois, a community is missing its organizer.)
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To: andy58-in-nh
LOL, there's the Mad Dog!
17 posted on 10/28/2008 8:46:37 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: mgc1122

San Francisco supports and promotes panhandling and is continually confused about the growing number of panhandlers.


18 posted on 10/28/2008 8:48:13 AM PDT by swift15 (Not enabling the grievance industry or advancing world socialism.)
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To: Above My Pay Grade
That said, I can’t imagine the government doing a good job allocating the change.

They'd take half for "administrative purposes". Taken from an old joke that said that giving money to the government was like transferring blood from one arm to the other - and losing 50% in the process.

19 posted on 10/28/2008 9:01:56 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: mgc1122
The idea was for people to drop their nickels and dimes into meters instead of giving them to panhandlers,

The bums in this town come right out and ask for folding money. They would use colorful language about you if you offered pocket change.

I'm sure if Newsom took a stroll down the Embarcadero, a panhandler would be not able to get with in 100 feet of his-honor.

20 posted on 10/28/2008 9:12:30 AM PDT by oyez (Justa' another high minded lowlife.)
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