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Now the Democrats Want Your 401(k) too?
BlogHer ^ | October 24, 2008 | Melanie Nelson

Posted on 10/27/2008 2:38:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Some of the comments to a previous conservative post by Dana (as well as other posts by me and various BlogHer conservatives) have suggested that it wouldn’t be the worst thing to let Obama’s policies lead us to the ways of England and Canada. Following those assertions, how do we keep Democrat policies from leading us to the ways of Argentina? At first blush this may sound like a reach, but read on.

Cristina Kirchner, the President of Argentina has announced she's going to nationalize all private pensions. From the Wall Street Journal:

"Mrs. Kirchner won't have trouble making the case for expropriation to Congress, which is controlled by her fellow Peronists. When the Argentine government ran out of money in 2001, it blamed the market and increased its own role in the economy. Since then it has imposed price controls, defaulted on its debt, seized dollar bank accounts, devalued the currency, nationalized businesses and tried to set confiscatory tax rates with the aim of making society more 'fair.'"

My question to you: Does any of this sound familiar? More importantly, does any of this sound like a good idea? I’ll answer that with a resounding NO!

Yesterday as I was listening to the radio, I heard about a new idea the Democrats have: Abolishing 401(k) tax breaks (emphasis in the excerpt below are mine).

Powerful House Democrats are eyeing proposals to overhaul the nation’s $3 trillion 401(k) system, including the elimination of most of the $80 billion in annual tax breaks that 401(k) investors receive.

House Education and Labor Committee Chairman George Miller, D-California, and Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Washington, chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee’s Subcommittee on Income Security and Family Support, are looking at redirecting those tax breaks to a new system of guaranteed retirement accounts to which all workers would be obliged to contribute.

. . .all workers would receive a $600 annual inflation-adjusted subsidy from the U.S. government but would be required to invest 5 percent of their pay into a guaranteed retirement account administered by the Social Security Administration.

Now, say you make under the $250,000 that Obama is already calling dibs on and you make just $150,000. You will be required to put in $7,500 of your hard-earned salary and will receive a match of $600 from the government. A far cry from the matching your current employer probably pays. This is the sort of thing we have to look forward to if the Democrats control the House, the Senate, and the Presidency. They will be unchecked and we will be on our way to giving up even more of our choices. I'm urging you to look closely at your options. We have 11 days before we vote. Do your homework.

Want to read more?

* Democrats to Kill 401(k) Accounts?! via Laura’s Miscellaneous Musings * Warning! Warning! via The Swine Line * Criminy, people! via Rachel Lucas


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 401k; democrats; economy; election; elections; obama; pleasepostthisagain; retirement; taxes
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I agree, we should all do our homework, because the media is in the tank for one of the candidates.
1 posted on 10/27/2008 2:38:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

they will pry it out of my cold, dead hands


2 posted on 10/27/2008 2:39:52 PM PDT by NetSurfer (BO stinks.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They want to go reverse privatization, they want to take our private accounts from us and put it back into the social security system. If they do try this, I will find a way to cash out as much as possible, even with penalties, and stick it into other investments, even if I am taxed.


3 posted on 10/27/2008 2:42:17 PM PDT by mnehring (We Are Joe!)
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Prayers for the election conducted at my church last evening. Great sense of unease among many people.
5 posted on 10/27/2008 2:43:25 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Todd Palin signed my t-shirt Oct.18 at NRA rally, N.Versailles PA Sportsmen's Club.)
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To: NetSurfer

They have already wiped out a third of your 401K.;)


6 posted on 10/27/2008 2:43:38 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (How much money has your 401K lost since the Democrats took Congress?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No matter who is elected, the ideas are out there, the seeds of Marxism have been planted. The dems will only stop now when blood has been spilled.


7 posted on 10/27/2008 2:44:40 PM PDT by exnavy (keep your powder dry)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes they want to put your 401K in to your Social Security account! SCARY!


9 posted on 10/27/2008 2:45:45 PM PDT by buffyt (DEWEY BEATS TRUMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Much, much, much , much more...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?m=all;o=time;q=quick;s=401%28k%29


10 posted on 10/27/2008 2:45:52 PM PDT by xcamel (Conservatives start smart, and get rich, liberals start rich, and get stupid.)
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To: jimmur281974

They are already debating this one on the hill.


11 posted on 10/27/2008 2:46:50 PM PDT by buffyt (DEWEY BEATS TRUMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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they will pry it out of my cold, dead hands

Communists are always happy to arrange that ...

12 posted on 10/27/2008 2:47:09 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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they will pry it out of my cold, dead hands...

...with the aid of a union made, government paid, crowbar.

13 posted on 10/27/2008 2:47:16 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In the early 1990’s, the Clintons wer trying to figure out how to tax the assets in qualified retirement plans - IRA’s, 401(k)’s and pensions.


16 posted on 10/27/2008 2:49:39 PM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Starboard

Exactly


17 posted on 10/27/2008 2:49:58 PM PDT by NetSurfer (BO stinks.)
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I hope this gets wide coverage - this will turn a lot of people -

But I heard that plan almost 30 years ago when I infiltrated a NO PRESS meeting in our state of the DSOC - Democrat Socialist Organizing Committee - (I was an investigative reporter for a state-wide paper att) - They laid out their strategy to infiltrate and take over the Democrat Party - and among their goals; “We must control the retirement funds.”

They're on the brink of total Socialist takeover of our country. Get everyone you know out to vote - or get ready to live under a dictatorship = for several generations.

18 posted on 10/27/2008 2:50:34 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

Ha. Not mine...


19 posted on 10/27/2008 2:50:35 PM PDT by NetSurfer (BO stinks.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Most people that work and make under $250,000 contribute to 401k plans. Their contributions are not taxed. Take that away and you have a tax increase on the middle class. Also, everyone who does not currently contribute will have to, so they are getting a 5% pay cut. And the most important thing, the money is going to the government. Want to bet that they put the money the same place they are putting the social security money.


20 posted on 10/27/2008 2:50:43 PM PDT by feedback doctor (The first female president will be a Conservative Republican)
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