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OBAMA: Reparations 4 Slavery? Check! Right here on my syllabus WHITE PEOPLE gonna pay
New York Slimes ^

Posted on 10/27/2008 8:40:53 AM PDT by steve0

Obama wrote: 10) Reparations -- Given the perceived failures of the traditional civil rights agenda in bringing about racial equality in the US, a number of black commentators argue that a program of reparations is the only legitimate means of making up for threehundred plus years of slavery. More recently, some white commentators have also supported a variant of the reparations concept -- for example, the government financing a Community Reinvestment funds that would be controlled by the black community and render affirmative action obsolete. Do such proposals have any realistic chance of working their way through the political system? Would there be any legal impediments to such a broadly-conceived reparations policy?

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antichrist; lies; obama; reperations
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To: annieokie
Right after the Civil War, they were given the houses, possessions and land of their former owners, what the hell did they do with it?

Incorrect.

This occurred in only a very limited area of the South, primarily the SC islands, took place during the War, was a consequence of the fact that the plantation owners had abandoned the land when the Union troops moved in. Even this land was largely returned to original ownes after the War.

Very little land was confiscated. Even Robert E Lee's family eventually was compensated for Arlington, confiscated and used as a Union cemetery.

61 posted on 10/27/2008 9:19:22 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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To: steve0
No one talks about reparations better than Diddy. A black man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2amXLa-iZGw

“If you really want to help the black community - stop stimulating the victim mentality.

“Black Africans have been the masters of slavery since God knows when. White people were just new customers.”

62 posted on 10/27/2008 9:21:45 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: UCANSEE2
To say that Sarah Palin is a socialist because her state doesn't pay income taxes is BS. She charges the oil companies royalties on the revenue they get from pumping Alaskan oil, no different than any other state in the Union does, the difference is she gives a chunk directly back to the citizens of Alaska, after all they actually own public land, not the state. The use of the terms collectively and "share the wealth" in the context she used them is not socialism. Socialism is taxing, not royalties from businesses making a profit from public resources, people to pay for social programs that suck the life out of a country. Sarah Palin has put new life into Alaska by giving the money back to the people it belongs to.

Spin it how you will, it isn't socialism.

The real problem with Bozo, to change the subject a bit, isn't so much his share the wealth is how he plans to get it and to share it. Listen to the video from a 2001 interview that is going the rounds today, this morning on Fox and Friends and I am sure others later. Bozo has already tried to spin it. He wants to use courts to change the constitution because it is "flawed", his own words, and the courts should ignore the "shackles" that are imposed on them by the Constitution and just give the government power to take the money from the people. Go to drudge they have a link to the video.

perhaps you might change your mind about voting for McCain/Palin after listening to it.

63 posted on 10/27/2008 9:24:00 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Hildy

Nice soundbite, and I’d go along with it, except I’ve never lived in a shack. I might change my mind if I had to. Freedom to live in misery, ill-health, and an early death through exposure, malnutrition and various poxy diseases isn’t much of a freedom.

Anyway, Eva’s point still has some validity. Slaves often lived in better conditions than some so-called “free men”. That, of course, is an inditement against the conditions of the free workers, rather than an apology for slavery, but if that is the case, why not reparations for them too?


64 posted on 10/27/2008 9:26:09 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: UCANSEE2

“...the gentle social democracies across the Atlantic, where, in return for higher taxes and without any diminution of civil liberty, people buy themselves excellent public education, anxiety-free health care, and decent public transportation.”

We do????

News to me.


65 posted on 10/27/2008 9:31:26 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: steve0
We've been paying "reparations" since Johnson stuck us with his "great society" program. It is high time that the taxpayer started getting reparations to make up for the slavery of high taxes.

Nobody should be paying for the sins of someone else. And nobody should be collecting for the toils of another. This is a BS issue designed to steal, plain and simple.

I don't owe anybody but the bank, and that's something to which I've agreed.

66 posted on 10/27/2008 9:32:59 AM PDT by meyer (The second amendment is NOT about hunting)
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To: steve0

Dave Chappel has a funny skit where after reparations a black who plays craps on the street surpasses Bill Gates as the world’s richest man.

(Also see his skit where the world’s formost white supremicist is a blind black guy who doesnt’ realize he is black.)


67 posted on 10/27/2008 9:35:45 AM PDT by prolifefirst
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To: Thunder90

We need belly girl. To fight off the nefarious (marxist) Bx0 girl.


68 posted on 10/27/2008 9:36:05 AM PDT by ichabod1 (You won't know communism is here until it puts a boot in your (fat) bottom.)
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To: steve0

> Most of my forefathers weren’t even in the US when this all happened. Why should I have pay?
My forefathers came here as bond slaves out of a British debtor’s prison, as did the ancestors of many whites. Why should I or they have to pay?


69 posted on 10/27/2008 9:39:58 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: brownsfan; steve0

You have benefitted from the predominant white culture in terms of opportunities, which are denied to the black man. In short, everything you have today was handed to you through the sweat of the black man’s brow.


70 posted on 10/27/2008 9:42:29 AM PDT by ichabod1 (You won't know communism is here until it puts a boot in your (fat) bottom.)
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To: calex59
No one alive in the US today has ever owned a slave in the US.

This isn't quite true - anybody paying the confiscatory taxes that our governments collectively charge is a slave to the government. And the extent that those wages are taken from the earners and given to non-earners, or paid on the behalf of those non-earners, is a perfect measure of the level of slavery that is occurring.

Roughly 45% of my working hours are potentially hours of slavery.

71 posted on 10/27/2008 9:47:31 AM PDT by meyer (The second amendment is NOT about hunting)
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To: steve0

This issue will probably be the biggest cause for their anger after That One loses.


72 posted on 10/27/2008 9:48:33 AM PDT by polymuser (God bless and keep America.)
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To: meyer

I am talking about slavery per se, not a slave to the government taxes. Your reply facetious and uncalled for.


73 posted on 10/27/2008 9:50:46 AM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59
Your reply facetious and uncalled for.

My reply was factual based on the true definition of slavery. I was merely correcting your assertion that slavery no longer existed in the US. As long as income is redistributed, the net payers in this society are, in fact, enslaved.

74 posted on 10/27/2008 9:53:25 AM PDT by meyer (The second amendment is NOT about hunting)
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To: steve0

My ancestors were here, Steve. They fought in the Civil War for the Union. Eight hundred thousand Americans died in that conflict. Where are our reparations?


75 posted on 10/27/2008 10:03:21 AM PDT by karl
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To: Vanders9

Must have been said by someone who never traveled across Europe and Asia.


76 posted on 10/27/2008 10:38:26 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: ichabod1

“You have benefitted from the predominant white culture in terms of opportunities, which are denied to the black man.”

We know this isn’t true.


“In short, everything you have today was handed to you through the sweat of the black man’s brow.”

Well, maybe tobacco and cotton, but not everything.


77 posted on 10/27/2008 10:43:01 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: UCANSEE2
But their goals and methods are the same.

Your forgetting about the creative use of tires and gasoline. This guy is Mugabe/Odinga.

78 posted on 10/27/2008 11:44:53 AM PDT by Stentor (Obama is Bill Ayers' Renfield.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Well for sure health care, taxes et al is better in Europe than it is in most of the world, but it’s hardly ideal.


79 posted on 10/27/2008 7:54:30 PM PDT by Vanders9
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