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Days of rage: There's something happening here (David Reinhard)
The Oregonian ^ | October 25, 2008 | David Reinhard

Posted on 10/26/2008 9:05:33 AM PDT by jazusamo

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To: jazusamo

On Friday night approx. 25 businesses and dozens of homes had “Fuck McCain” spray painted on them in Gainesville, VA. Gainesville is about 40 miles due west of Wash DC and is a solidly red area. Several homes also received extra treatment with the entire garage door covered with similar obscenities.

Where does this rage come from? How can otherwise decent people look at this type of vandalism and their first words are “Well, my friend in ___________ had their Obama sign stolen.” Sorry, but spraypainting obscenities in 8 foot letters where they can be easily seen by folks and kids in cars does not even come close to stealing a sign. Not to mention the expense now incurred by homeowners, business owners, and probably a few insurance companies to pay out on the damage claims of the worst hit homes.


41 posted on 10/26/2008 9:44:10 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: richiep

“change” will be change away from the limits on government defined in the Constitution. These limits are already being trampled, but would seem minor compared to what I fear Obama would do.


42 posted on 10/26/2008 9:45:14 AM PDT by MtnClimber (http://www.jeffhead.com/obama/nobamanation-sticker.jpg)
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To: dusttoyou
No, we are dealing with vocal fringes, on both sides. If 0 wins then we work within the system to regain control. It is very unlikely he will go Hugo Chavez on us, and it is even less likely that our system will allow it--but we can deal with that once it comes up. Doesn't it make sense to fight a real unlikely event when it happens rather than to fight imaginary evils? I know it is a lot more fun to fight the imaginary, but it really is part of the problem now, isn't it?

I know my rational attitude on this topic is somewhat controversial, evidenced by you starting your post to me with YOU. Fighting imaginary evils causes harm, isn't that clear?
43 posted on 10/26/2008 9:48:19 AM PDT by itsPatAmerican
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To: jazusamo
Obama's not my candidate -- McCain is -- but, if he's elected on Nov. 4, Obama will be my president and I'll be happy to cheer two things. One, the fact that the United States has, at long last, elected an African-American president. Two, the possibility that Obama's election might deliver us from this nastiness. I think it's called the audacity of hope.

well intended but hopelessly naive....given the stark political diffeences today and a sharply nearly evenly divided electorate and a shifting demographic set to usurp the power from a traditional voting base of two hundred years I only see things getting worse.

44 posted on 10/26/2008 9:48:32 AM PDT by wardaddy (when will the folk songs about Barack begin?)
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To: itsPatAmerican
And all this "that's not what the other side believes talk gets us nowhere. It's not what a tiny fringe on either side believes. Tiny. Fringe.

The problem is that the fringe seems to be at the top, as much as at an occassional root. When a party's Presidential candidate hangs out with "God D@mn America" types and the former(?) head of the Weather underground, folks are bound to wonder about the nature of his potential administration.

45 posted on 10/26/2008 9:49:56 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: nutmeg

bookmark


46 posted on 10/26/2008 9:50:51 AM PDT by nutmeg (Sarah Palin/Joe the Plumber 2008)
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To: jazusamo

I find this guy hand-wringingly naive, I must say.
Today’s lefties, from Barney Frank, through Pelosi and Reid, and on down to their proteges, the out-of-state students who were just forced to withdraw their illegal ballots in Ohio, are descended in a straight line from both Mao’s Red Guard, and the kind of brutal operatives, (apparatchiks) that Stalin installed after WW2 all over the Eastern Europe he was handed. Look into the history of Romania’s Ceascescu, then imagine someone better dressed, less likely to have to perpetrate literal murder, and just as much aided and abetted by a slick media, and you have today’s Democrats. Look into the entire history of Fanny and Freddy and you have a perfect example of how, through the patented smooth talk of intimidation they are able to get too many people to go along with their socialist designs, and how deftly they managed to cram socialism down our throats, break the system, then demogogue the entire issue as if it the Bush Administration’s fault, and propose themselves, the Socialists, as if THEY are the solution to the collapse they themselves created.


47 posted on 10/26/2008 9:51:31 AM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: mad_as_he$$

Thaanks.


48 posted on 10/26/2008 9:51:55 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: Enchante

So true! I see revenge in the dems eyes. From the “we will investigate President Bush” to spreading the wealth around. Obama will not be my president.


49 posted on 10/26/2008 9:52:35 AM PDT by crazydad
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To: itsPatAmerican
You're correct in respect to your friends and neighbors, but dead wrong in regards to politics. We are a nation founded on a core set of principles, spelled out and enumerated in the “Declaration of Independence”, “Constitution”, and “Bill of Rights”. While we have differing religious views, we are basically what would be center to center right politically.
Yet we are being told that the majority prefers the most radical leftist candidate for POTUS in history? The Democrat party gained control of the house and senate in 2006 by running the most conservative leaning candidates they could find against weak RINO opponents. When the election was over, they immediately put the most Left winged moonbats they had in charge of the house and senate.
The democrats laid the foundation for the financial crisis through their policies, obstructed reform that might have prevented the crisis, and then have the audacity to blame the problem on “George Bush's failed policies”.
The hardcore, leftists in the democrat party are calling the shots, ignoring the wishes of the people, and they are supported and abetted by their hardcore leftist pals in the MSM. They will have completed their political coup once they have Obama entrenched, and then can load the supreme court.
So, I guess I take exception to your feeling that it's only politics.
50 posted on 10/26/2008 9:54:06 AM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (Never argue with an idiot, they always wear you down and beat you with experience)
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To: little jeremiah

I saw that too...the other kumbaya poster is a newbie too.

or maybe they are wideawake moderates who just had to come back

they are dumb as rocks if they think the ideological split today is just superficial

incredible

too many of the key issues have little or no middle ground and today’s electorate and media are noth much more leftist than in my lifetime (50)

where do you find middle ground on?

abortion.

ignoring the second amendment

wealth redistribution

radical islamist with nukes

voter fraud which is obviously almost exclusively a Democrat operation in minority areas

it goes on and on

this is the 1850s folks like it or not....where we end up is a mystery


51 posted on 10/26/2008 9:55:00 AM PDT by wardaddy (when will the folk songs about Barack begin?)
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To: Lancey Howard

Yeah, he’s a fool, and I didn’t even have to read that far.
He reminds me of an even softer Glen Beck, though Glen seems to have gotten a little more realistic lately. I HATE this kind of “conservative”, or Republican, or whatever he is. His entire persona is taken over by those kind of “aisle-reaching” qualities in McCain that drive us all nuts.


52 posted on 10/26/2008 9:55:52 AM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: SoftballMominVA

It’s foolishness and it’s sad that some have so little respect for others. They come to the wrong house and one or more of them could easily be blown away, I say too bad.


53 posted on 10/26/2008 9:56:42 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: jazusamo
One, the fact that the United States has, at long last, elected an African-American president.

I am dead tired of this nonsense.

Why is that something to cheer?

Whatever happened to that "content of their character rather than colour of their skin" thin? Huh????

NOBODY, least of all supposed conservatives, should give a crap what colour 0bama's or McCain's skin happens to be. That is, by definition, racism.

If 0bama wins, it will mean that we have elected our first uabashed communist infanticidal megalomaniac as president.

There's absolutely NOTHING to cheer about that.

54 posted on 10/26/2008 9:57:04 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: jazusamo
Two, the possibility that Obama's election might deliver us from this nastiness.

Absurd. Preposterous.

0bama's campaign is the source of "this nastiness".

55 posted on 10/26/2008 9:58:12 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: jazusamo; All

Well .. if David is expecting things to calm down if Obama gets elected .. he’s got another “think” coming.

It not only WILL NOT CALM DOWN .. the Obama people are already using a policy of “their way or the highway”. It will be payback time .. and I believe every white person and a few non-liberal blacks will be direct targets of reprisals.

One of the first attacks will come against Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, and every other “conservative-leaning” person or organization. The Fairness Doctrine is first on the list of legislative events for the new Obama admin. If talk radio goes .. so goes the nation.

This supposed intellectual (David Reinhard) cannot explain what this is all about .. but I can .. Bush didn’t roll over and give the election to Gore in 2000. Even one year later, when the NYT, Washington Post, Miami Herald, Boston Globe (all very liberal newspapers) pooled their money and paid to recount all the votes. An entirely legal thing to do. After all that money and work - what they found out was that Bush STILL WON THE ELECTION .. BUT BY EVEN MORE VOTES than the 537 .

However, the media burried that information - never informing their liberals that BUSH ACTUALLY WON THE ELECTION AND DID NOT STEAL IT .. but instead continued to foment the premise that “Bush stole the election”.

Since that day .. the liberals have had only one goal - GET BACK CONTROL OF THE GOVERNMENT - AT ANY COST.

If you want a bird’s eye view of how the dems try to steal elections, Bill Sammon wrote a great book, “At Any Cost: How Al Gore Tried to Steal the Election” (Bill traveled with the Gore campaign in 2000). It’s riviting reading - and gives insight into how the democrats view elections - THE DEMS WIN - THE REPUBS LOSE! For the liberals there is no other choice.


56 posted on 10/26/2008 10:00:07 AM PDT by CyberAnt (Michael Yon: "The U.S. military is the most respected institution in Iraq.")
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To: gotribe
He is an Arab-American. Daddy was of Arabic descent.

So he's and Arab-African-American. You only have to look at photos of BHO Sr, to see that there is not much Arab there. Probably some, the Arabs liked their slave girls as much as Chicken George's father did.

57 posted on 10/26/2008 10:00:10 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: wardaddy
this is the 1850s folks like it or not...

It's more like 1860, with The One being a bizzaro world Lincoln.

58 posted on 10/26/2008 10:02:07 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: jazusamo

Well nice words, but “politics” is more than “just politics” it impacts lives, sometimes ruins them and in some cases resulted in the death of untold numbers, pretty serious in my book.

Tiny “fringe”? I think not. Look at the rage directed at Sarah’s innocent children, look at what they’ve lied about and said about her, Todd and her children, and yet their candidate’s families are untouchable (and should be, I’m not arguing that point, I’m arguing for equal treatment). Look at their rage wherever they appear.

Look at the unbridled rage when she appears, like all the demons of hell have been released and I’m convinced that’s part of the mix too. Look at the unhinged columns written about her, look at the insane, unbalanced “protestors” running around naked on bikes, dressed in weird costumes, the vile signs they hold aloft.

No, this is far bigger and more organized than we think, never underestimate the enemy, always a mistake. These are bedrock issues: murder of the unborn, the confiscation of more of our money, the destruction of our way of life, the inability to vet this candidate, the demonizing of those who pose legitimate questions and concerns about Obama, the list goes on and on and if we reflect we see parallels in history but then again, we need to have read some history.


59 posted on 10/26/2008 10:02:55 AM PDT by brushcop (We remember SSG Harrison Brown, PVT Andrew Simmons B CO 2/69 3ID KIA Iraq OIF IV)
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To: screaminsunshine

Sorry - this IS Galt’s Gulch. There’s no place else to go. Atlas is not just going to have to shrug. Atlas is going to have to go to war.


60 posted on 10/26/2008 10:03:13 AM PDT by Noumenon (Time for Atlas to shrug - and to pick up a gun)
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