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To: dusttoyou
No, we are dealing with vocal fringes, on both sides. If 0 wins then we work within the system to regain control. It is very unlikely he will go Hugo Chavez on us, and it is even less likely that our system will allow it--but we can deal with that once it comes up. Doesn't it make sense to fight a real unlikely event when it happens rather than to fight imaginary evils? I know it is a lot more fun to fight the imaginary, but it really is part of the problem now, isn't it?

I know my rational attitude on this topic is somewhat controversial, evidenced by you starting your post to me with YOU. Fighting imaginary evils causes harm, isn't that clear?
43 posted on 10/26/2008 9:48:19 AM PDT by itsPatAmerican
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To: itsPatAmerican
No, we are dealing with vocal fringes, on both sides. If 0 wins then we work within the system to regain control. It is very unlikely he will go Hugo Chavez on us, and it is even less likely that our system will allow it--but we can deal with that once it comes up. Doesn't it make sense to fight a real unlikely event when it happens rather than to fight imaginary evils? I know it is a lot more fun to fight the imaginary, but it really is part of the problem now, isn't it?

This is not a "fringe movement" - it is mainstream. ACORN is huge. The mainstream media is huge. The enemy is not a handful of communist idealogues - it is several million people, conspiring in lockstep to steal this election, and to intimidate those who dare speak out against Obama. The fact that they've illegally sought information on Joe the Plumber from secure government documents indicates that the enemy is large and embedded in our institutions.

We can see that the ballot box is obviously tainted with hundreds of thousands of fraudulent ballots being cast for Obama all over the country.

We can see that the soap box is tainted, with a left-wing media so obviously slanted in favor of Obama, and with dissenting opinion being silenced through intimidation and ignorance.

It's quickly becoming clear that the only remaining method of destroying the socialist/communist coup that is occurring right now will involve the cartridge box. Sadly, its becoming clearer and clearer that it will take a civil war to get this country back to constitutional republic that it once was.

77 posted on 10/26/2008 10:29:25 AM PDT by meyer (The second amendment is NOT about hunting)
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To: itsPatAmerican
I know my rational attitude on this topic is somewhat controversial

I looked for evidence of your "rational attitude" in your posts, but what I found instead can better be described as "wishful thinking".

Follow the evidence where it leads, rather than dismissing it out of hand as the irrelevant actions of a loud and delusional yet essentially powerless 'fringe'.

On a purely rational level, haven't you seen overwhelming and undeniable evidence that this election is not 'just like any other election'? For example, is there any possible reasonable doubt that media bias this time around is unprecedented in modern history in its blatant and pervasive tilt in favor of Obama, with the clear goal of hiding the truth about Obama rather than discovering and revealing the truth about Obama, at least long enough to install him in office, after which the discovery and publicization of any and all heretofore-damaging revelations will be moot?

Isn't the evidence undeniable that massive, coordinated, and unprecedented violation of election laws is going on to ensure an Obama 'win', whether it be the money laundering and outright fraud that the Obama campaign has engaged in to accept cash while disguising its foreign and criminal sources, or the organized effort to subvert the voter registration process, or the chilling handiwork of all those "public servants" misusing their offices through threats and coercion and outright contempt for the law in order to ensure one and only one permissible outcome?

These are not illusions, nor are they the work of a fringe. The fringe has neither the power nor the money to effect these things on this scale. Clearly something else is going on.

You don't need to be a conspiracy theorist to state the evidence and then inexorably conclude that such things are being deliberately orchestrated by an unholy alliance between Democrat party leaders and the institutional Left that has been building its power and influence for decades for precisely this purpose, in concert with other (foreign and domestic) enemies of the Nation as a whole, propelled by purposeful subversion, wholesale intimidation, and mind-boggling supplies of dirty money to grease the skids. Such corrpution may have been in evidence in the past in some big cities or even in some statehouses, but never has it been seen on the nationwide scale and with the chilling effectiveness that is evident this time around. Can you point to any other national election that has seen anything close to what has gone on this time around? I didn't think so...

How can any analysis be described as 'rational' when it studiously avoids dealing with the evidence that is in plain sight, and instead relies on calm assurances that it's only an impotent fringe that is dealing in such calumny?

98 posted on 10/26/2008 11:34:46 AM PDT by Zeppo (Every mighty mild... seventies child... Beats me (Metric - Combat Baby))
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