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To: dascallie
The nude photos of Ann Dunham in an older man's apartment (no, I won't, google it if you are interested) have convinced me that Frank was Barry Dunham's father.

I had imagined her as a naive, easily-impressed and somewhat rebellious girl, who hooked up with Barack the Kenyan and got in over her head.

But now, I think that's wrong. I think she was pimped out to Frank by her commie father and when it became known she was carrying a black child, she grabbed onto the Kenyan exchange student, told him he was the father, and got him to marry her. BHO Sr. must have copped on to the truth, and split.

BHO Jr. would have to be a very extraordinary individual to transcend such a truly perverse family background. That's possible, but unlikely.

What's more likely is that he's a malignant narcicist who has (subconsciously) identified America as she is as identical to the forces that deprived him of a normal family and parental love.

This must make him very angry.

10 posted on 10/26/2008 7:11:31 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered...the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph)
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To: Jim Noble

From Dr Sam Vadkin, the utmost expert in NPD ( arising from lack of maternal nourishing in first years (1-3 years )....NPDs turn to “malignant self-love” to cope :

Proposed Amended Criteria for the Narcissistic Personality Disorder

Feels grandiose and self-important (e.g., exaggerates accomplishments, talents, skills, contacts, and personality traits to the point of lying, demands to be recognised as superior without commensurate achievements);

Is obsessed with fantasies of unlimited success, fame, fearsome power or omnipotence, unequalled brilliance (the cerebral narcissist), bodily beauty or sexual performance (the somatic narcissist), or ideal, everlasting, all-conquering love or passion;

Firmly convinced that he or she is unique and, being special, can only be understood by, should only be treated by, or associate with, other special or unique, or high-status people (or institutions);

Requires excessive admiration, adulation, attention and affirmation – or, failing that, wishes to be feared and to be notorious ( using others as “Narcissistic Supply”...ie, feeding the disorder)

Feels entitled.

Demands automatic and full compliance with his or her unreasonable expectations for special and favourable priority treatment;

Is “interpersonally exploitative”, i.e., uses others to achieve his or her own ends;

Devoid of empathy. Is unable or unwilling to identify with, acknowledge, or accept the feelings, needs, preferences, priorities, and choices of others;

Constantly envious of others and seeks to hurt or destroy the objects of his or her frustration.

Suffers from persecutory (paranoid) delusions as he or she believes that they feel the same about him or her and are likely to act similarly;

Behaves arrogantly and haughtily. Feels superior, omnipotent, omniscient, invincible, immune, “above the law”, and omnipresent (magical thinking).

Rages when frustrated, contradicted, or confronted by people he or she considers inferior to him or her and unworthy.

http://samvak.tripod.com/npdglance.html


13 posted on 10/26/2008 7:18:23 AM PDT by dascallie
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To: Jim Noble
Jim, that is exactly what I think happened. Grandma Toots knows all of this and that is why she is kept incognito. I doubt Barry has told his wife Michelle this info as the truth, and that is why Barry did not take her along on the last two visits to grandma, because he need to talk to grandma ALONE.
17 posted on 10/26/2008 7:32:25 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Jim Noble
If the photos are real and I mean IF, they were taken when she was under age! She has definitely NOT had a child.
18 posted on 10/26/2008 7:33:20 AM PDT by WellyP
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To: Jim Noble

The other possibility is that Obama’s grandmother is actually his mother, which would of course be reflected on the birth certificate. Although she was a bank officer, she was apparently quite left-wing herself.

This, of course, would not make Obama ineligible for the presidency, but it certainly might raise some questions about the manufactured history he has presented to us all. Or then again, he might claim that he didn’t know and he just found out when he went to Hawaii last week.

OK, time for me to take off my tin-foil hat now...


22 posted on 10/26/2008 8:04:08 AM PDT by livius
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To: Jim Noble

I too, agree that Jim Noble has hit on the facts or something close to them.

I was reading about Barry’s “narcicist” tendencies the other day, and that’s the part that scares me even more than his being a Marxist (hard to think there could be something even worse, huh?)

I don’t even want to go look at nude photos of Ann Dunham (or anyone else) so I’ll take your word that they exist. Was it possible to tell who the man was in the photos? Did he look like Frank? (just curious)


27 posted on 10/26/2008 8:29:57 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: Jim Noble

That could be, but I have wondered all along if his birth certificate would say “unknown” as to the name of his father.


35 posted on 10/26/2008 8:48:35 AM PDT by Hanna548
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To: Jim Noble
Have not seen these photos. How do you know that the photos are of Obama’s mother?
43 posted on 10/26/2008 10:18:44 AM PDT by Irish Eyes
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