Point of No Return (Mark Steyn)

NRO ^ | Oct. 25, 2008 | Mark Steyn

[Fishrrman]

“If a majority of Americans want that, we holdouts must respect their choice. But, if you don’t want it, vote accordingly.”

Perhaps the time has come to realize that perhaps the majority of Americans _do_ “want that”.

However, I will never respect them or their choice, and will “vote accordingly” so long as I still have the opportunity to do so.

One wonders how long before “the majority of Americans” surrender that, too.

- John

[Tench_Coxe]

"Once they gain full control, they will pass laws to ensure they never lose power again. I'm not sure how they can be stopped once it reaches that point. "

At the risk of some fool invoking Godwin's Law....when the Wehrmacht invaded Yugoslavia, the takeover was quick. Over the course of the next 3 years, more and more manpower and resources were required to protect the supply lines into Greece and the Eastern front (short article here: Yugoslavia During WWII )

Difference here is: when the power bases of the Democrats are isolated from 'flyover country', where are the supermarkets going to get their food from?

[livius]

I agree with Thomas Sowell that an Obama-Pelosi supermajority will mark what he calls “a point of no return”.

I disagree with Steyn, however, on Obama being a sort of benign dispenser of goodies. Obama is an evil and vicious person - as his unguarded photos and statements reveal - and will start making his enemies pay once he is in the White House.

That said, Obama is not the author of his own lunacy - unlike Hitler, who actually wrote all his crazy words himself - but is a willing pawn of people smarter than he is. These would include Bill Ayers, his wife Bernardine Dohrn, and a number of white left wingers who are manipulating him and using the black shock troops to carry out their will.

Barry is a sociopath, basically a shape-shifting personality, who is being used as the ultimate vehicle by 1960's radicals. They waited, they were forgiven by the US, and they used this forgiveness to regroup and redirect their efforts through the channels of foundations and identity politics. And they are now just on the edge of seizing what they have wanted for more than 40 years, control of the US.

I think Obama is a nasty, malicious person, and his wife is even worse. She'll be the Madame Dufarge in this purge. But her husband is weak and a sociopath, which means that he will do whatever he thinks is necessary to be accepted by a group and receive the benefits of this. He's not the mastermind, in other words. But it won't matter one way or the other once he and his cronies have control of the US government and the military.

[Americanexpat]

My country sent me half way across the world to fight and kill communists,now the sorry bastards want to put one in the white house.

[nathanbedford]

Marc Stein is a very gifted writer and a perceptive one as well so it is not to denigrate his effort to say that he has put a happy face on the potential Obama administration. He has left out a description of what the more sinister side of Obama might lead to.

Beyond our economic future, beyond the defense of the Republic, we might very well be confronted with the subversion of our precious constitutional liberties. We are all aware of the assault on free speech already committed by the Obama campaign including chilling announcements by prosecutors in Missouri, under orders from the Obama campaign, that they would prosecute anyone who falsified Obama's record. We know what Obamaniacs, only one step removed from the campaign itself, have done in trying to intimidate Chicago radio station. We know that the campaign has protested vehemently to a local television station in Florida because of a tough interview with Joe Biden. The Democrat party is already stated that it will attempt to reinstate the fairness doctrine which would take free speech off the airwaves, at the least free conservative speech -they will no doubt leave untouched the drip, drip of liberalism which we all are only too aware of on National Public Radio. The Democrats also intend to set up community "Soviets" Judge talk radio. The second amendment is also under threat despite Obama's protestations to the contrary. His record must make all who take the second amendment seriously very uneasy. There are intimations that the Obama administration will criminalize politics and undertake to prosecute members of the Bush administration for war crimes etc. This list is not meant to be exhaustive.

There is another sinister virus which might erupt from somewhere deep in the spinal cord of the Obama administration. Depending on how far left Obama really is, depending on how dedicated he is to the destruction of the United States as an effective nationstate and as a bulwark against pan nationalism represented by the United Nations, we might very well see the undermining of American sovereignty through a series of treaties which not only restrict domestic constitutional liberties but also severely curtail the sovereign independence of the nation. These will probably include treaties about global warming, international finance now that we are in the throes of an international financial crisis, arms control, and a world tax to fund the United Nations and to wage international wars on poverty. We might well see the explicit submission of American jurisprudence to international courts not limited to international crimes, human rights violations, but to all manner of justicible controversies. Again, this list is not meant to be exhaustive.

Finally, and perhaps most sinister of all, we may well be confronted with a cult of personality. We have already seen the first evidences of this with the singing children and the quasi military youngsters in the karate hall chanting for Obama. Obama has simply failed to repudiate any of this cult of personality. He has not been called the Messiah for nothing, such an appellation comes not from the man's modesty. Couple that with Obama's stated intention to have comprehensive national service and you have the levers with which a despot can begin to build a tyranny. Tell me again how Hugo Chavez got his start.

There is a hidden sinister face to the happy face of Barak Obama.

[yazoo]

He points out the biggest fear anyone should have. If Obama makes over half the voters dependent there will be no end to the take from the wealthy and give to everyone else. The poorer we get the more the unwashed will demand the government give them more. It ends with chaos.

[Islander7]

IGNORE THE POLLS!

Go VOTE!

Turn out is the key to victory!

Get off the couch, turn off the computer, take action!

Volunteer For Victory!

The Future of the Republic is at risk!

It is up to us, the people, to stop the leftist take over of America.

Are you willing to do your part?

[FlyVet]

I don't remember seeing that red star logo before, so I wonder if it is now unveiled because the Dems believe they've got this all wrapped up, and don't need to hide it any more. Obama ZEN?

If he wins, it's a sign this country doesn't want to live any more. I expect the attack on the 2nd Amendment will be one of the first things on the agenda.

[FlyVet]

I expect to see a huge increase in immigration from Islamic countries. In the spirit of unity (appeasement), of course.

It's working so well in Europe, why not here?

[Guenevere]

bttt

[jackv]

Check out his store. It is all in plain sight!!! Absolutely amazing!!!

http://www.democratnationalcommittee.com/candidates/barack_obama.htm?gclid=COTRgvrYwpYCFQykagodZj8FygtAmericans

[uncbob]

My country sent me half way across the world to fight and kill communists,now the sorry bastards want to put one in the white house.

And that is what is so damn infuriating

[brydic1]

The conservative has only to blame the GOP for what is coming. These pseudo conservatives have betrayed the cause of individualism, free enterprise, and limited government when they joined forces with the leftists in voting for countless new and expanded government programs costing trillions of dollars. Like democrats their only principles were preserving their power whatever the cost hoping that that they could postpone the inevitable until they would be dead or retired at taxpayer expense. I can not blame the politically unwashed who having seen the mess the GOP has made in governing of this country will surely be voting for any kind change. Hell, they would vote for Hitler or Stalin (the GOP president is less popular than the Unibomber) if that was the alternative to the republicans that have misgoverned this country in the past 8 years. Corruption, mismanagement, ineptness, and inarticulateness, thy name is the GOP.

While I will be voting for this incompetent GOP in November because I do not want to be a party to the destruction that is coming, millions of Americans simply see the financial destruction, the mismanaged war and total lack of leadership and will think no further than throw these bums out. I also would like to take this opportunity to chastise those GOP and Bush apologists that continued to support these witless people no matter their failures and ineptness. It is possible that had true conservatives rose up and truly censored those elected republicans in 2004 thru 2008, they could have succeeded bringing such pressure that they would have turned from the leftist socialist agenda.

[Attention Surplus Disorder]

Great piece by the always important-to-read Steyn, though I’d disagree with him in a few places. The first third is as spot-on as it’s possible to get.

I have complete confidence that an Obama presidency and a Dem supermajority in Congress would be the beginning of a radical, communistic and largely unstoppable shift in virtually all aspects of life in America. And I think we would far overshoot the status of “benign” socialistic states of Europe, thinking about Scandinavia/Belgium. No, we’d go much more towards the nightmare British model of endless suffocating regulation, overbearing bureaucracy, enforced in law by an activist judicial elite and in practice by shadowy administrations and bureaucracies without end. It would be themed as a hit-the-ground-running Dem revolt away from business and commerce and all the way into “people power” and cradle to grave socialism. It’s frankly completely nauseating to me.

But I have to say that the shredding of the Constitution and enlargement of government enacted by the Bush administration will be nothing if not the standard by which these s**theads measure their legislative performance going forward. I hope to God Americans wake up and think again about what they are about to inflict upon themselves if they vote these liars and scumbags into office.

[PowerPro]

Declaration of Dependence. How frighteningly appropriate.

[Cap Huff]

“Steyn is on target once again.”

Steyn also knows what it is like to be a target.

One hopes that he and others like him don’t have to go through that again in the future.

[denydenydeny]

His rise is, in many ways, testament to the persistence of the monarchical urge even in a two-century old republic.

If this only fit, I'd have a new tagline.

[A_perfect_lady]

Dayum! There are so many good quotes in this, I don't know where to start. I feel like the squirrel in Ice Age 2 when he goes to heaven and there are acorns all over the place.

The spirit of the age is: Ask not what your country can do for you, demand it. Why can’t the government sort out my health care? Why can’t they pick up my mortgage?

So good. "Declaration of Dependence." So true. I love this guy.

[Mr. Blonde]

Declaration of Dependence is one of the best ways to describe what an Obama presidency is. It amazes me that no one has said it before, but it is fitting that Steyn is the one who does say it.

[scory]

The question I have is this: If the worst case scenario or something very close to it comes about then what are we going to do about it? If the deck is stacked in such a way as to muzzle political opposition, rig the electoral process to ensure that the majority party cannot be defeated and the government has assumed effective control of finance, education and health care what options are left to try and put things right?

In my mind this is starting to become a real concern and not the stuff paranoid daydreams. And I hate that this is happening.