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To: Nipfan

How can the judge rule “did not have standing” when a legit birth certificate has NOT been produced? We The People have lost our Free Republic.


184 posted on 10/25/2008 8:55:35 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (Michelle Obama...Queen of the Damned (courtesy of CougarGA7)
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To: NoGrayZone

Maybe I’m silly, but I find it impossible to believe that Mr. Obama has not, at some point in his life, produced a birth certificate to obtain, let’s say, a driver’s license, a social security card?? I would also think that documentation of that production exists. And, I am quite sure that if such documentation proved that Mr. Obama was not born in the USofA, it would have been found out and revealed for all the world to see by a member of the conservative nation (yes, I have that much faith in said nation). To answer the inevitable question, “Why, then, if this is the case, has not some member of the liberal nation yet produced the proof?” Who knows? Maybe they’re waiting for the infomercial? Or, they prefer to follow the privacy laws of the land? I sense this may be much ado about nothing....


192 posted on 10/25/2008 9:13:32 AM PDT by Dukie07
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To: NoGrayZone

In a “common person’s” answer (me being the common person) grin...

I think the judge was saying that neither Mr. Berg, nor any American VOTER, has the right to ask for a birth certificate in HIS court to begin with. That is what “standing means — that the person filing the suit had no right to do anything about the situation, at least in a specific way they are trying to do it at the time.

Along with that comes the idea of needing to be “hurt” to have a say so... to have the right to do something about a situation.

The judge’s acceptance of hurt or perceived hurt (to Mr. Berg as a citizen or voter... to us ALL as citizens or voters) was, in that judge’s mind not proven enough. The judge apparently didn’t think Mr. Berg had the right (standing) in that SPECIFIC court to say he was hurt and that he did not prove he knew for sure he WOULD be hurt — the kind of “hurt” that would be needed to proceed in that court. (Like........ if Obama didn’t get voted in, we would not hurt, even if he WASN’T qualified, since he would not have been voted in, and he apparently could not speculate enough that we WOULD be hurt in the future, since we can’t know the future and don’t know if he will be voted in or not.) Hope that made sense there!

I agree with others here that this might be best done in other higher courts anyway.


193 posted on 10/25/2008 9:13:40 AM PDT by casinva
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To: NoGrayZone
We The People have lost our Free Republic.

We haven't lost anything yet if enough voters keep hammering at the politicos and media to get this mess straightened out NOW before we carry another constitutional crisis into the next term, the first one centering around Billy boys impeachment.

210 posted on 10/25/2008 9:30:20 AM PDT by jetson
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