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Rush talked about this today. They will do away with the 401k plan. Your money goes into social security, you die your family does not get it all back, only 50%, as the death tax cuts it by half, it is administered by the SS system, you get no tax benefit, THUS you go into a higher tax bracket EVEN THOUGH you put money into this account. So, the US GOVERNMENT basically owns your retirement account, you die, your family does not get it all back.
1 posted on 10/24/2008 2:04:10 PM PDT by RetiredArmy
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65 posted on 10/24/2008 3:14:59 PM PDT by Leisler
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I believe the socialists want armed revolt in America.

For the life of me ... most, if not all of the socialist's decisions and acts make absolutely no sense, except to destroy America, personal liberty and freedom.

And personally ... I won't stand for it ... I'll be in prison or dead.

66 posted on 10/24/2008 3:15:30 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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bttt


73 posted on 10/24/2008 3:46:31 PM PDT by SuperLuminal
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There's still time for McCain to put Obama on the defensive over this issue.

A simple ad showing how 2 dem congressmen and a socialist professor are scheming to get their hands on your 401k is something that would resonate, IMO. It might force Obama to respond and show his hand.

75 posted on 10/24/2008 3:52:49 PM PDT by Ken H
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I strongly urge everybody to read up on the federalist papers, particularly where they make reference to the second amendment. There is a reason that founders allowed private ownership of arms, and it wasn’t hunting.


76 posted on 10/24/2008 3:55:41 PM PDT by meyer (We are all Joe the Plumber)
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Don’t get so upset folks. Obama promised to lower taxes for 95% of us. Removing the deferred tax of 401Ks would increase income taxes on workers as they’d no longer have the tax benefit. That would mean Obama’s promise will be broken regarding income tax breaks to 95%. Obama wouldn’t do that, would he? He promised!!!!!!


77 posted on 10/24/2008 3:56:12 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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House Democrats Contemplate Abolishing 401(k) Tax Breaks

BE VERY AFRAID OF A RAT CONTROLLED WH, HOUSE, AND SENATE.

HOLD YOUR NOSE AND VOTE MCCAIN.

78 posted on 10/24/2008 4:03:22 PM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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and none of the morons in the media can figure out why the stock market keeps dropping.

This would devestate the stock market. Totally devestate it.


79 posted on 10/24/2008 4:11:11 PM PDT by rlferny
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84 posted on 10/24/2008 4:30:37 PM PDT by Kudsman
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Their recent rhetoric and actions make me think they’re trying to provoke violence. They may well get it...


94 posted on 10/24/2008 5:08:59 PM PDT by clintonh8r ("My friends, we've got them just where we want them." McCain. Or Custer.)
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I remember hearing Obama at one of his rallies laughing and agreeing with a supporter when the supporter said his 401K was looking like a 101K because of the financial crisis...guess we know now what Obama was actually laughing about...and thinking..."sucka"...

96 posted on 10/24/2008 5:37:14 PM PDT by ~Vor~ (It is better to shoot for the stars and miss than to aim for the gutter and hit it...Anonymous)
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"....Powerful House Democrats are eyeing proposals to overhaul the nation’s $3 trillion 401(k) system, including the elimination of most of the $80 billion in annual tax breaks that 401(k) investors receive.

House Education and Labor Committee Chairman George Miller, D-California, and Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Washington, chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee’s Subcommittee on Income Security and Family Support, are looking at redirecting those tax breaks to a new system of guaranteed retirement accounts to which all workers would be obliged to contribute.

A plan by Teresa Ghilarducci, professor of economic-policy analysis at the New School for Social Research in New York, contains elements that are being considered. She testified last week before Miller’s Education and Labor Committee on her proposal...."



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97 posted on 10/24/2008 6:44:19 PM PDT by Islander7 (This Atlas is shrugging! ~ I am Joe!)
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This is a few Democrats from very poor sections speaking. Does anyone actually believe that a representative from a middle class area is going to go back to his constituents and tell them he voted to take away their life savings in one fell swoop. This thing has absolutely no chance of passing, but i sure hope they try.


98 posted on 10/24/2008 6:55:19 PM PDT by yazoo
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One thing I've not seen mentioned: is the amount of money invested in the stock market greater or less than optimal? There are limits as to how much money may most profitably be invested in any particular asset class; one factor in the housing bubble was that the total amount of money investors wanted to invest in 'mortgage backed securities' exceeded the total demand for houses. The net effect was that the markets absorbed the investors' money and their investments are worth about the same in total as they would have been had the total investment been much smaller.

I worry about whether the same may be true of the stock markets. As long as more people are trying to put money in than are trying to take it out, stock prices will go up, but if prices exceed real value, investors' real dollars are going to be turned into imaginary wealth that will evaporate when people try to redeem it.

101 posted on 10/25/2008 12:11:37 AM PDT by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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3%. That sucks. Who is to say that will be knocked down to nothing someday? Joe Biden probably thinks it would be more patriotic if we just gave all of our possessions to Obama and worked for him the rest of our lives.


102 posted on 10/25/2008 8:04:44 AM PDT by Force of Truth (As to the bailout: Cui bono?: Follow the money.)
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McCain needs to be screaming this from the rooftops this week. I can't think of a more galvanizing issue. Think about it... Marxism... they are taking your property and giving you a government stipend. Google Kulaks and puke...
105 posted on 10/26/2008 6:35:52 AM PDT by April Lexington (I'm voting for McCain in 2008 and Jefferson Davis in 2012)
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There’s a lot of baby boomers on Facebook. I’m going to post this article there...


108 posted on 10/26/2008 6:53:18 AM PDT by CatQuilt (Lover of cats =^..^= and quilts)
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RUSH: They're not hiding their plans, folks. It's scary.

Biden: CEO Pensions "Go First" (And Your 401(k) Will Go Next)
111 posted on 10/26/2008 12:48:52 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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Here is a link to the actual article, rather than the front page of the web site.
112 posted on 10/26/2008 12:50:08 PM PDT by Scutter
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Thanks for posting this! This needs to be BREAKING NEWS each and every day until elections.

I posted this the same article October 22nd under Breaking below:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2112720/posts

Please someone with influence, please bring this to Average Voter Joe's attention! This Dem Idiocy not only will negatively impact the individual 401K holder but the stock market in general.

114 posted on 10/26/2008 12:58:17 PM PDT by Chgogal (Voting "Present" 130 times might be a sign of a smart politician. It is not a sign of a good leader.)
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