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Democrat: Obama's grandma confirms Kenyan birth'...real sham he's pulled off for the last 20 months'
WND ^ | October 23, 2008

Posted on 10/23/2008 10:30:22 PM PDT by Red Steel

The Pennsylvania Democrat who has sued Sen. Barack Obama demanding he prove his American citizenship – and therefore qualification to run for president – has confirmed he has a recording of a telephone call from the senator's paternal grandmother confirming his birth in Kenya.

The issue of Obama's birthplace, which he states is Honolulu in 1961, has been raised enough times that his campaign website has posted an image purporting to be of his "Certification of Live Birth" from Hawaii.

But Philip J. Berg, a former deputy attorney general for Pennsylvania, told the Michael Savage talk radio program tonight that the document is forged and that he has a tape recording he will soon release.

"This has been a real sham he's pulled off for the last 20 months," Berg told Savage. "I'll release it [the tape] in a day or two, affidavits from her talking to a certain person. I heard the tape. She was speaking [to someone] here in the United States."

He said the telephone call was from Obama's paternal grandmother affirming she "was in the delivery room in Kenya when he was born Aug. 4, 1961."

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Three, be a natural-born citizen. He is not."

Obama campaign officials acknowledged the dispute by posting the image purporting to be a copy of his certification of live birth earlier this year. But they've declined to return WND requests for comment...

WND reported earlier this week Berg's claim that Obama has legally "admitted" the accusations included in his lawsuit, including that he was born in Mombosa, Kenya, by not responding to the allegations.

Berg has cited Rule 36 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, which states that unless the accused party provides written answer or objection to charges within 30 days, the accused legally admits the matter.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: alienobama; bc; birthcertificate; certifigate; colb; obama; obamagate; obamaisgoingdown; obamatruthsquad
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To: XR7
Can you say “race riots”?

Bring the savages on.

I've got something for their asses - a Glock 21 SF with 1000 rounds of .45 ACP, a LWRC AR-15 with 2500 rounds of 5.56, and a Mossberg 500 with 500 rounds od #4 buckshot (among other things).

61 posted on 10/23/2008 11:33:28 PM PDT by DocH (Osama Obama: Leader of an America-Hating Socialist /Black Nationalist Sleeper Cell)
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To: 3D-JOY
If Obama is proven not eligible to become president. It's the complicit main stream media who have hidden the facts, the DNC, and Obama. They are the wrong doers. Not us - it's them - who will/are to blame.
62 posted on 10/23/2008 11:35:54 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

I am afraid I do not believe his supporters will see it that way.

Anyone I mention it to just says I am crazy...they will never blame their ONE, since that means they were wrong!


63 posted on 10/23/2008 11:40:17 PM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: KDD
(putting my opinion of him aside)

McCain was born to 2 US citizens.
His father was serving in the US Military.
Therefore, like it or not, McCain IS a "natural-born" citizen.

64 posted on 10/23/2008 11:41:17 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: KDD
(putting my opinion of him aside)

McCain was born to 2 US citizens.
His father was serving in the US Military.
Therefore, like it or not, McCain IS a "natural-born" citizen.

65 posted on 10/23/2008 11:42:15 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: DocH

I wouldn’t advertise the fact, given the next president may call out the goons on you.


66 posted on 10/23/2008 11:42:33 PM PDT by XR7
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To: XR7

Bring them on too.


67 posted on 10/23/2008 11:43:57 PM PDT by DocH (Osama Obama: Leader of an America-Hating Socialist /Black Nationalist Sleeper Cell)
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To: 3D-JOY
I am afraid I do not believe his supporters will see it that way.

Anyone I mention it to just says I am crazy...they will never blame their ONE, since that means they were wrong!

Then we will have an impasse. If they riot, it will be meet with the appropriate force.

68 posted on 10/23/2008 11:44:25 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Just A Nobody
McCain was born to 2 US citizens.
His father was serving in the US Military.
Therefore, like it or not, McCain IS a "natural-born" citizen.

Correct.

69 posted on 10/23/2008 11:46:38 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: 3D-JOY
no court will rule in a way that will cause so much anger and disruption in the country. Can you imagine it? Can you imagine his admitting it and withdrawing?

Then we are no longer a country under the rule of law!

70 posted on 10/23/2008 11:47:08 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Just A Nobody; DocH; KDD; Red Steel; freeplancer; All
I have tried to brainstorm how he might get around the truth.

Have his Mother declared unwed and with unknown father?

Have her unwed and declare Davis, the communist, as father.

This would require setting aside the adoption by Soetoro, the Indonesian Passport and it's use as an adult.

It would require his declaring no previous knowledge of the truth or he would have false documents all over the place.

Bingo! Now we go to Hawaii and miraculously find out the truth. Poor Baby! Lots of sympathy and a court order changing all the records to make him natural born!

How do you like that fairytale at bedtime?

71 posted on 10/23/2008 11:52:53 PM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: KDD

It is best if you actually read the complaint in the lawsuit, you can see the issues as to why his citizenship is being called into question.

http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/1/


72 posted on 10/23/2008 11:58:38 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Red Steel

In a nutshell, yes your summary is correct.


73 posted on 10/24/2008 12:00:30 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: 3D-JOY

That is not a fairy tale. That could happen. It might be possible that he knows all of this will break this week and if they bombard us with the MSM, radio and internet, it will be old news by election time and he might get some sympathy votes. It is a master plan indeed, and the perfect action of a scoundrel.


74 posted on 10/24/2008 12:02:09 AM PDT by freeplancer (McCain Voters Catch the Lobsters-Obama Voters Eat Them)
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To: 3D-JOY
How do you like that fairytale at bedtime?

And on hat note...G'night!

75 posted on 10/24/2008 12:03:19 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: nutmeg

find later


76 posted on 10/24/2008 12:03:50 AM PDT by nutmeg (Sarah Palin/Joe the Plumber 2008)
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To: 3D-JOY
How do you like that fairytale at bedtime?

It's a good one. And on hat note...G'night!

77 posted on 10/24/2008 12:03:57 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: JMack

Many of us have looked for her part in this.

Berg was a Hillary Clinton supporter.

Her team may be letting out the information on their own time schedule. They might know so much more than we do!

Would she get enough sympathy vote to win with his name on the ballot( too late to change it and DNC would designate her)? She would be able to control the electors if he is disqualified after the election but before the inauguration.

It is surely possible.


79 posted on 10/24/2008 12:12:43 AM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: All

Thanks for coming out to play tonight...I hear the sandman calling me to bed now.

We’ll see what news is breaking in the morning!

Good night all.


80 posted on 10/24/2008 12:15:01 AM PDT by 3D-JOY
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