Lawsuits Starting Across Nation to Require Barack Obama to Provide Certification of Birth in U.S.

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[CodeToad]

But then Biden gets the seat.

[job]

Appears I’m wrong. US citizens can hold dual.

[hsrazorback1]

You said, “US law doesn’t allow anyone under 18 to renounce their citizenship”.

Incorrect.

http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_776.html

See Paragraph F & G

[Emperor Palpatine]

No, it doesn’t disallow dual citizenship.

But it does disqualify one who has dual citizenship from being president.

[Calif4Bush]

Any idea who’s paying for this trip?

[hsrazorback1]

Wrong.

http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_776.html

[Savage Beast]

You may be right. It may not be legally possible now. But just let the Democrats seize the White House and both houses of Congress, with a supermajority, and they will pack the courts and enact laws, via legislation and/or the judiciary, and anything they want will become legal--anything. This is what's called a coup d’état.

[Reily]

Maybe, but ethnic anger would be enormous, and reliable democrat voting block would sit at home.
Hillary needs Obama to lose & lose big, lose in such a way that he takes Howard Dean and the anti-Clinton democrats out of control of the party.
The Clinton's need control & patronage control of the DNC again/
If Obama just barely loses she Hillary has a fight on her hands for party control and Obama can still make a case that he is a contender for 2012. Obama loses catastrophically and he is gone. (Getting declare a non-Citizen is pretty catastrophic because he could also be out of the Senate!)

[Brian S. Fitzgerald]

http://cbs13.com/local/obama.lands.Sacramento.2.847368.html

Oct 23, 2008 12:27 pm US/Pacific

B To Land In Sacramento...To Refuel Jet

SACRAMENTO (CBS13/CNN) ― Presidential hopeful B will make a brief stop in Sacramento this afternoon, but won't make any appearances.

B is heading to Hawaii to visit his ailing grandmother. His plane is expected to land in Sacramento around 3:40 this afternoon to refuel before heading over the Pacific.

CBS13 has learned B will be staying on the plane, as well as everyone on board, during the stop which is expected to take "no more than an hour".

B is planning to spend tonight and much of tomorrow with his grandmother in Hawaii, before resuming his campaign in Nevada on Saturday.

B tells CBS that he wasn't with his mother when she died of ovarian cancer and doesn't want to make the same mistake with his grandmother. As he put it, "my grandmother's the last one left."

(CBS13/CNN)

[Roccus]

How many US Representative candidates in this election might not be US citizens?

IMO, nobody knows because NOBODY CHECKS!

[Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)]

The US is one of a few countries that does not allow dual citizenships.”

That’s not so. I am dual.

[Brian S. Fitzgerald]

IMO, nobody knows because NOBODY CHECKS!

EXACTLY. i think we have just discovered a major flaw in the current election system.

[Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)]

P.S.

But then, I’m not running for president.

[hoosiermama]

IIRC The dual citizenship issues is settle by the 1930 agreement at the Hague. If one country does not allow dual citizenship the other country must comply. Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship. Therefore, when he became a citizen there he lost his citizenship here.

[LucyT]

Thanks, Davey Crockett.

Ping to some good news for a change; see #8, too.

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

Taking your page as correct policy, you still have Obama not instantly losing his US citizenship because of his mother’s marriage or even his adoption. Instead, in order for him to lose his US citizenship, you have to accept that, at an age of less than 10 (when he moved back to the US), that he was able to “convince a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer that he/she fully understands the nature and consequences of the oath of renunciation, is not subject to duress or undue influence, and is voluntarily seeking to renounce his/her U.S. citizenship.” And there would be records or such a renunciation in the State Department files.

[SatinDoll]

“Citizenship is not the issue here.”

JEEZ! I know that, and you would know that I know that, if you read what I’ve posted on this thread.

[null and void]

OK. Under US law. But under Indonesian law, he had to personally renounce all other citizenships to get that Indonesian passport. Under Pakistani Martial law, he could not enter if he was an American.

So, HE renounced his American citizenship to TWO foreign powers, AFTER he turned 18, so the limits in paragraphs F & G don't apply.

That he didn't honor the United States enough to make a formal renunciation to a US consular or diplomatic officer provides him with only the most withered of fig leafs for his intent.

[Dr. Bogus Pachysandra]

I still think he might complain about the VRWC on his tv extravaganza, and then whip out his birth certificate. I don;t trust that sleezeball!

[The_Reader_David]

That's not an issue. I wish folks here would focus on the relevant question: is Obama a natural born U.S. citizen. The fact that his adoptive father may have foisted Indonesian citizenship on him, or that Kenya might regard him as a Kenyan citizen on the basis of his father's citizenship is neither here nor there--the only ways one can lose U.S. citizenship are to renounce it after reaching the age of 18, or to accept a title of nobility from a foreign government without the consent of Congress.

If, however, he was not born in the U.S., under the law prevailing at the time of his birth, he would not be a U.S. citizen at birth due to his mother's age. While under current law a woman the same age would confer citizenship on her child, the change was not made to apply retroactively.