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Lawsuits Starting Across Nation to Require Barack Obama to Provide Certification of Birth in U.S.
The People's Passions ^ | Steve Marquis

Posted on 10/23/2008 2:54:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: combat_boots
I didn't realize she did that.

Dumb question...did she ever rescind the order for martial law or are we still there?

Futures Market is frozen this morning....

201 posted on 10/24/2008 5:58:13 AM PDT by EBH ( Welcome to the United Socialist States of America. Oct. 1, 2008)
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To: The_Reader_David
No, the fact that another country’s laws regard a person as having given up U.S. citizenship has no weight whatsoever under U.S. law.

The example you used is not quite reductio ad absurdum because it is not an extension to the nth degree of a particular situation but the creation of an entirely new one, the only similarities being governments and declarations of citizenships.

Besides, you're ignoring the other part: A minor child's citizenship follows that of the custodial parent, at least for the period of time in question.
202 posted on 10/24/2008 6:04:27 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: kalee

http://www.militarytimes.com/news/2008/10/military_poll_100508w/

23% are voting for Obama according to the above poll.


203 posted on 10/24/2008 8:04:09 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Jim Noble
One reference here:

NOW, It all sounds very innocent, "a college trip to Pakistan".

Pakistan was in turmoil in 1981 and ruled of martial law. Millions of Afghan refugees were living in Pakistan, while the Afghan Mujahedeen operated from bases inside Pakistan in their war with the Soviets. One of the leaders that based his operation in Quetta, Pakistan was Usama Bin Laden (The Sheik).

Pakistan was on the banned travel list for US Citizens at the time and all non-Muslim visitors were not welcome unless sponsored by their embassy for official business.

The would be only a few reasons a young Westerner of the Muslim faith would travel to Pakistan in 1981:

To Participate in Jihad, which is the duty of every "True Believer".

For religious education in a Wahabbi sect, Saudi funded, Madrassa.

In order to purchase drugs from the drug marketplace.

Pakistan was not a tourist stop nor the place to hang out with someone's family in 1981.

Context here

204 posted on 10/24/2008 9:37:16 AM PDT by null and void (Socialism doesn't work because of people./People don't work because of socialism...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; seoul62
Yes, just as Senator McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone to a Naval Officer and his wife.

Alternate answer:

No, unless like Senator McCain, you get your very own "sense of the Senate" (the McCaskill memo, never passed as a law) that says you can.

BTW, McCain wasn't born in the Canal Zone, he was born in the Republic of Panama...

205 posted on 10/24/2008 9:58:21 AM PDT by null and void (Socialism doesn't work because of people./People don't work because of socialism...)
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To: Savage Beast
We can and we must defeat them honestly and fairly with the vote. by any means necessary. Get out the vote!
206 posted on 10/24/2008 11:12:28 AM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. The only question is whether by conquest or consent.)
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald
Does the US military have to obey a President that has been deemed ineligible ?

Yes, unless they are prepared to attempt a Military coup. A very dangerous undertaking.

207 posted on 10/24/2008 11:20:28 AM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. The only question is whether by conquest or consent.)
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald
The Secretaries of States don't do it!

Consider Ohio

208 posted on 10/24/2008 11:24:00 AM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. The only question is whether by conquest or consent.)
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To: aruanan
Besides, you're ignoring the other part: A minor child's citizenship follows that of the custodial parent, at least for the period of time in question.

You are uninformed on the law. It has been posted many times on these threads, take a little time in get informed on the law as it was in 1961.

209 posted on 10/24/2008 11:26:57 AM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. The only question is whether by conquest or consent.)
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To: null and void
No, unless like Senator McCain, you get your very own "sense of the Senate" (the McCaskill memo, never passed as a law) that says you can.

This sense of the senate has zero authority to establish a constitutional amendment. McCain is ineligible under a strict interpretation of the law.

210 posted on 10/24/2008 11:31:40 AM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. The only question is whether by conquest or consent.)
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To: Savage Beast

Plausable theory, yet I don’t think it would work because the electorate would be too confused to cast a winning number of votes for her. At this point, it’s Barack’s name on the ballots, and logistically there just isn’t time to switch, there isn’t time to get the word out “a vote for BHO is a vote for HRC”, and there are too many votes already cast in “early/absentee voting” to legally deal with a name change. It would even confuse the electors too much.


211 posted on 10/24/2008 11:41:04 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (I AM JOE THE PLUMBER!)
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To: itsahoot
Don't say that too loudly, we wouldn't want to be stuck with a President Palin, now would we? Please God, Please make it so!!!!
212 posted on 10/24/2008 11:44:41 AM PDT by null and void (Socialism doesn't work because of people./People don't work because of socialism...)
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To: itsahoot
You are uninformed on the law. It has been posted many times on these threads, take a little time in get informed on the law as it was in 1961.

I've been on these threads since before the beginning. From what was posted here, the law regarding the citizenship of the child following that of the custodial parent was in effect during the time that Barry's mom married Lolo Soetero and became an Indonesian citizen. This was posted sometime during the past month and a half.
213 posted on 10/24/2008 12:01:19 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald
"As he put it, "my grandmother's the last one left." "

Isn't his grandmother in Kenya still alive?

214 posted on 10/24/2008 12:09:06 PM PDT by Hatteras
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To: Hatteras

His Kenyan grandmother isn’t a blood relative, she was merely part of the Barrack Sr. harem...


215 posted on 10/24/2008 12:15:13 PM PDT by null and void (Socialism doesn't work because of people./People don't work because of socialism...)
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To: itsahoot
Consider Ohio

What's the story there?

216 posted on 10/24/2008 12:20:28 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: Hatteras
Isn't his grandmother in Kenya still alive?

Yes

217 posted on 10/24/2008 12:21:07 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

The constitutional requrement is that they be born in the US, not that they merely be a citizen of US.


218 posted on 10/24/2008 12:42:17 PM PDT by frposty (I'm a simpleton)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Anyone know how the candidates are listed on the ballot?

Barack Hussein Obama or Barack Obama?

219 posted on 10/24/2008 12:53:57 PM PDT by demsux
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To: seoul62
I believe you would be constitutionally eligible to be president under those circumstances, since you were born to two American citizen parents, and technically on American soil. That's in contrast to what Obama's situation probably is. Your circumstances are covered in the US Code.
220 posted on 10/24/2008 2:06:29 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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